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Mazda Protege, Sedan
#5115 of 24043 Good morning everyone!
Oct 04, 2001 (4:00 am)
Well, it's nice to see we're all still friends. I thought I'd be reading a lot of hate mail this morning following my hard-cutting, highly opinionated dissertation yesterday afternoon.
I agree that there are good reasons to have ABS ... I just think the complexity and cost outweigh those reasons. And to whoever it was who said air bags are great too ... my answer is, I totaled my 1992 Protege LX in August 1992. I hit the back of a stopped Volvo station wagon going about 45 mph. My only safety device was that damned "passive restraint" motorized belt. No air bag. But the car did a "textbook crumple" and I walked away. Yes, there are times when an air bag will save your life, and I'm glad to have them on my 2000 ES. But luckily, I've never had to depend on one, and I shudder when I think of how back in 1999, when I hit a deer head-on at 60 mph in my Mazda truck, I had a $2,000 insurance claim to fix my bashed-in front end. Had that truck had air bags, it would've been totaled. It costs thousands of dollars to replace a deployed air bag system.
Anyway, we all have opinions ... that's what makes this topic so interesting to read. I respect everyone's opinions here ... well, almost everyone's. Paul and Jerry are total nuts.
There, that oughta stir the pot a little!
Oct 04, 2001 (5:37 am)
Why does everyone have to pick on me??
Oct 04, 2001 (7:07 am)
I hate to beat this subject to death, but I thought I'd put my .02 worth (if it's even worth that much, LOL). For those of us (myself included) who have driven many years w/o abs, it's certainly going to be a learning curve to 'learn' how to stop w/ abs. My dad slid through an intersection last winter in a snow storm in his abs equiped Ford Explorer. Luckily, he just slid through and didn't hit anyone, but when he was describing it to me, he kept saying how he was pumping the brakes but couldn't stop in time. I had to remind him that you're not supposed to pump the brakes with abs. I quess old habits are hard to break.
I'm starting to wonder if I made the right decision to buy a car with abs (I have a 01 2.0 LX w/ the abs/sab package). I've driven many years w/o it (I'm 34) and have driven everything from a small front wheel drive compact to a large Frito Lay step van in snow and ice. I used to deliver pizzas back in college in Duluth, MN (those of you familiar with Duluth know how hilly that city is) and survived countless panic situations in snow and ice. I guess I'll have to learn abs sometime in my life, because I assume 5 to 10 years from now it'll be hard to buy a car without it, unless you want to buy an old used car.
For those of you attending MAPP II, I'm jealous! It sounds like a great time! I'd love to attend myself, but that's a bit of a hike from MN. To all attending, drive safely and have a great time. Tell us all about it when return.
Oct 04, 2001 (8:10 am)
I love the ABS...that's all I've got to say.
MAPP II attendees...ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM! I wish I could be there, but work and $$$ prohibit right now. I too am jealous that you all get to do something like that...I tried several times to organize a similar event here in Chicago but could never gather enough interest from other Protege owners. PLEASE post pics asap after the event. I can't wait to see them!!!!
Regards and happy ZOOMING,
Oct 04, 2001 (8:46 am)
I'd be interested in a Chicago area Protege event. Hopefully we can get several others from around here interested! Newcar31, I know you're from MN. Anyone else around here?
#5120 of 24043 hey speedypt
Oct 04, 2001 (10:24 am)
I'm from Naperville but going to school in New Mexico. If the event were during the summer when I'm home, I'd definitely be interested in bringing my P5 by
#5121 of 24043 2002 Protege MPS???
Oct 04, 2001 (1:55 pm)
I've seen two references now - one a post on Protege Vs Sentra in sedan-vs-sedan on Townhall, and another on a web page - saying that mazda will bring out a MPS car with much higher power for the protege next year. The web page claimed it would be in Spring '02. Anyone else know any more about that? Are there any definitive references, or is this all wishful thinking? I also saw a post discuss a possible higher-power Protege engine this fall, but that seems less certain than an '02 MPS.
I think the protege is a great car but I would like more power, given the choice.
Thanks for any info or references.
#5122 of 24043 Higher power engine...
Oct 04, 2001 (2:48 pm)
The 2002 models do have a higher-power engine in the lower models. The 1.6 will be no more, and will be replaced by the 2.0 engine, which will be standard fare across the Protege line for 2002.
#5123 of 24043 re: 2002 protege mps
Oct 04, 2001 (2:55 pm)
I'm certain I read somewhere some speculation about an a MPS protege for 2002 that I believe mentioned forced induction. I will check when I get home for any references, but I think it was in Autoweek which has in the past been fairly reliable. I'll get back on that one with any quotes I find. There are a number of mentions in earlier posts, but I don't recall any source referenced - could be wrong on that, though.
#5124 of 24043 don't forget about chat tonight...
Oct 04, 2001 (3:44 pm)
9pm ET/6pm PT
very slow day on the board, where is everybody...