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You are in the Mazda Protege
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Mazda Protege, Sedan
Aug 30, 2001 (5:44 am)
I agree wholeheartedly. Every car has its merits, and the Civic is one hell of a car ... otherwise it wouldn't occupy the top position in its segment.
But any topic called "Mazda Protege" is going to be full of people who own Proteges and are going to defend their purchases to the hilt ... just like the Civic owners on the Honda Civic topic. Don't blame us for being a little one-sided. We've all got our reasons for loving the cars we chose to purchase!
And I wouldn't worry too much about the tire size -- I thought the 195-55VR15s on my 2000 ES were hard to come by, and they are -- but I haven't been to a tire store yet (and I've been to Firestone, Goodyear, Merchants, even Sears) that didn't have something in that size. My next set of tires will be coming from TireRack.com. Besides, how often do you need a brand-new tire in the middle of nowhere? I never have ... just put on the spare and get the tire fixed at Goober's Fillin' Station and be on your way!
Let my experience help you decide on your purchase since many of those who post here are on their first-ever Proteges. I'm on my third ... the first, a '92, hydroplaned (let's talk about tires!) at only 8 months old and was totaled. I walked out of that crash and was so amazed at the safety features of the car that I purchased another '92 that I drove for 83,000 miles (in only a little over 2 years). Never had a problem. It was a no-brainer to get the 2000 ES, which has been a great car for its first 25,000 miles.
I can't speak for the Civic -- I never owned one. I owned a 1987 Honda Elite 150 Scooter, which was great! My brother had a 1991 Honda Accord LX, and it was trouble-free except for a $1,000 a/c compressor replacement he had to do at an early 60,000 miles.
Happy deciding; I personally (of course) hope you choose to zoom zoom zoom!
#4242 of 24043 twistinmelon...
Aug 30, 2001 (5:44 am)
>Owning a Protege does not make you James Dean.
You sound like a 'rebel without a protege.' ;^)
Sorry, I really couldn't help it.
#4243 of 24043 Civic/Protege recalls ...
Aug 30, 2001 (6:02 am)
Twist, here's a comparison of recalls between the Civic and Protege:
Proteges manufactured between June and December 2000 could have suffered a damaged brake line, and there was a recall to take care of that. (This included some 2000 models and some 2001 models.) That's the only recall on a Protege in the last two model years.
The Civic has had two recalls this year. Interestingly, both involve the fuel system. The most recent recall was announced yesterday:
"In a collision, without enough clamping force, the tube between gas cap and the tank could disconnect allowing fuel to spill and burn in the presence of an ignition source."
The other recall involves a fuel pump problem that could cause the car to stall, resulting in a crash.
Kind of ironic ... I know it's unlikely, but in a Civic you could be driving along, the car could stall, and you could crash ... which then could cause the fuel line to leak, causing an explosion!
Honda Civic = Ford Pinto!!!
#4244 of 24043 You won't hear any from me!
Aug 30, 2001 (6:10 am)
I love my Protege, but I also like the Civics. Every car has it pros and cons, its give and takes. We are a pretty enthusiastic lot about our Proteges, but I think we all would say there are some redeeming factors with the Civic (I personally thought it sounded more solid than the Protege). There are other cars out there that aren't so lucky!
Meade, it sounds like you might have to put together an agenda for MAPP II! Lets see, you can have the waxing breakout session, the winter tire dilema session, the Protege vs. Daewoo roundtable...
#4245 of 24043 Twistinmellon
Aug 30, 2001 (6:17 am)
Sorry if I shook your cage. The comment was based on what I have read in the Civic boards here, namely, they bought one because everybody else does. Now, THAT is a lack of confidence in one's decision-making.
No, driving a Protegé doesn't make us James Dean. I doubt any of us even think about being any famous driver.
One of the odd things about a Protegé is the spacious interior, especially the big dash, giving the driver a sense of being in a larger car and equal on the road to Camry's and Accords. This sense of size is not felt in Corollas and Civics. IMHO, it's a major PLUS.
How you see a Protegé, I hope it is positive, and you decide to join us on the road and here in the forum. Come in tonight to the Mazda Protegé Owners Club chat, it's open to everyone. Great place to ask questions. 6:00PM to 7:00PM PT -- 8:00pm to 9:00PM CT -- 9:00PM to 10:00PM ET.
That's why there are so many cereals, not everyone likes cornflakes.
#4246 of 24043 A little light-hearted story ...
Aug 30, 2001 (6:19 am)
Thought my fellow zoom-zoomers might enjoy this little incidence of stoplight drag-racing I participated in yesterday evening in my 2000 ES 5-speed!
I had to pick up dinner on the way home, but I needed (ahem) to pick up a bottle of gin on the way to the restaurant. After securing said bottle of gin, I was at the traffic light in front of the shopping center when a fairly new Mercedes 300-class pulled up behind me. Now, I don't want to get racial here, but let's just say it had gold-plated accents, was piloted by a young driver who did not appear capable of owning such a vehicle, and the bass coming from this car was such that it was vibrating the fillings in my teeth.
This guy obviously did not agree with the casual way I made my left turn in front of him, so at the next light he swerved abruptly into the lane beside me -- leaving us next to each other and first in line for the light to turn green. I could see him in the corner of my eye -- even though he was reclined nearly to horizontal -- gloating over his superior vehicle.
Okay, I thought, this is war. I had to make a left turn at the next light, which was about a quarter-mile of straight road ahead. I could see the light ahead of me, and it was red too -- and there was no one in my lane, but two cars in his. So I knew if we were going to race, he would try to get in front of me at the next light. (He had no way of knowing I'd be turning into the left turn lane, so it didn't matter to me anyway.)
Sure enough, he started to roll forward (across the white line) and gunned his engine. I could tell he had an automatic -- giving me an edge. The light turned and I gave him the surprise of his life -- I didn't beat him by a whole lot, but I beat him! We both had our windows down, and I couldn't help but look right at him and laugh out loud. My little unassuming Mazda creamed a Mercedes!!!
Disclaimer: Professional driver, closed course. Do not try this at home. Contents may have settled during shipment. For entertainment purposes only. Affidavits on file. Results are not typical. Void where prohibited.
ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM!!!
P.S. Normally I do not engage people in drag races. It's dangerous. But some days ya just gotta vent!!!
Aug 30, 2001 (6:20 am)
Guess I just proved I AM a James Dean!!!
#4249 of 24043 1999 and 2000 owners take note!
Aug 30, 2001 (6:33 am)
A 2000 owner is offering for sale his 2000 ES 15-inch wheels and tires -- post 384 on the "Mazda Protege - Accessories & Modifications" topic!
#4250 of 24043 WTG Meade!!
Aug 30, 2001 (6:34 am)
Meade the MB smasher! Keep in mind that boom coming from his trunk sapped his torque. LOL! The bigger they come the harder they fall.