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#295 of 24043 Oil Changes and Fianancing Deals
Feb 15, 2001 (9:11 pm)
I think that it is wise to take your Protege to the dealer for the oil changes during the warranty period. As crazy as it sounds, I believe that you have more leverage in the event that a surprise problem arises if you have thorough documentation of dealership oil changes and inpsections, at least during the warranty period and shortly thereafter.
My local Nissan/Mazda dealership bought back a virtual lemon of a Nissan Truck that I had in 1998 when I provided a list of all the maintenance that they had performed (every oil change, etc.) I did not have to go to arbitration or even so much as contact a lawyer. They relized that the truck was well-maintained by their dealership and to say that the truck was not pampered would cut the dealership's own throat.
Also, I have noticed how some dealerships invite you to "hook them up" on the warranty service/dealership experience type surveys. Be thoroughly honest on these--they may come back to haunt you should you have a lemon. At the same time, acknowledge good treatment on the dealership's behalf. For some reason we get the urge to cover up faults in service and dealership experiences because we think that we will get special favors. I really don't think that you will get much more than an oil change for even the best of compliments. When it comes down to the wire, you are one of hundreds of others who fill out survey cards and are in now way entitled to any extra benefits for covering up for the dealerhsips.
Let's talk financing. If you are about to buy a new Mazda, enroll in a master's degree program or be a college graduate very quickly. Not only can you combine the college bonus, you can get a slightly smaller rebate when combined with 0% financing. Unfortunatley, I don't believe that Mazda offers a repeat buyer discount--some companies actually offer a customer loyalty discount. The financing special is usual only good for short-term loans. I bought my 2000 LX for 36 months--this was the shortest time possible but three years at 0% is not much more per month than 4 years at 7.75 %. Good luck all.
#296 of 24043 to speedypt
Feb 15, 2001 (9:39 pm)
It's the washer on the oil Plug? If that's so than ohhhh"k"! I just hadn't heard that "fancy" term for it. Why do you need a new one that often, and is the Mazda filter as good as a Mobil-1 filter? Thanks for any input, I've only used dino oil and fram(or equiv) filters before. But for this baby I'm willing to go the extra mile!
Thanks for any input, I'm not a car maintenance expert, I've just had friends who were, and I moved away from them all!
#297 of 24043 washer, mileage for 00/01
Feb 15, 2001 (10:06 pm)
first the washer.. I had a Cavalier that the washer was built in the screw. never replaced it in 7 yrs and never leaked.
second on protegextwo Feb 15, 2001 1:15pm
mentioning a 00 with 75K and 01 with 75K. the 00 will be more apealling because in 5 yrs you won't tell them you had it 5 yrs. the buyer will see a 00 with the same lmiles as a 1 yr newer car. they will equate that with an extra yr of driving and still it has a lower per yr mileage. in 2005 the 00 will be 6yrs old (regardless of when bought) have the same miles as a 5 yr car.
as for the price. We got our ES Auto for 14.4K with a 1.4K rebate/grad, and our 1K down. that was after TTL. it was I think 300 over invoice in December according to various sites. I know some got it for cheaper, but it was around the acceptable range for me and the wife loved it..
#298 of 24043 Re: '01 Protege vs. '00 Protege both w/75,000 miles
Feb 15, 2001 (10:35 pm)
Maybe it's time for me to go to bed, but I must say I don't quite understand what you mean by more "appealing". Are you saying someone will consider the '00 to be more appealing and enough to be willing to pay more for it than the '01 because he thinks the '01's average mileage is 15,000 miles a year and the '00's is 12,500 miles a year? What about if the car will be traded in for a new one? Do you think the dealer will offer more for the '00 too?
Feb 16, 2001 (3:31 am)
Andrew, I am not a fan of pin stripping on most cars. But, that is just my preference. The fact that some new car dealers add this after factory feature and charge $75.00 hiss's me off. My local Toyota/Mazda dealer has a new sales manager who adds it to all new cars as they are added to the sales lot! What a jerk. $75.00 of pure profit for the dealer, not mention it looks crappy on MOST cars. The most expensive tape in the world. Well,... I have purchased my last three vehicles at Lancaster Toyota Mazda and I asked my sales guy, Erin Mulroy about the policy of pin stripping all the new cars. He told me that if a customer asks to have it removed, they will and IF the customer asks, the $75.00 comes off the price of the vehicle, also! He told me very few people ask to have the pin stripping removed and even less ask to have the surcharge removed! Go figure!
IMHO, I think the mud guards are very handsome and I would add them to both my PRO-ES's. Andrew, my 2 cents; pay for the mud guards and tell the sales person the pin stripping and the surcharge for it go's, end of discussion. I can't believe, he would let you walk for $75.00.
#300 of 24043 Customer Survey/Rosenthal Mazda
Feb 16, 2001 (7:15 am)
Boy people did post a lot, I just checked the board late yesterday afternoon. Regarding the CS survey's, I was promised a free tank of gas. Since my sales rep was helpful, and had a good experience, I will rate her highly regardless of the tank of gas. Its probably more of an attempt to get people to fill the things out rather than an attempt at a bribe. Just my thought on that.
As for Rosenthal, I went there this past sunday looking for an 01 Pro ES. They didn't have one that I wanted, but I asked the guy to give me a price on what I wanted. He refused unless I would agree to buy a car from them. Finally he indicated that because it was an 01, I could expect to pay near MSRP. At that point, I got up and left. What a jerk.
The current issue of Road and Track has a small article on the Protege MP3. They mention that some of the parts will be made by Racing Beat. Do you think there is any chance that these parts would be made available through the dealers or Racing Beat for purchase.
#301 of 24043 RE: sfrat
Feb 16, 2001 (7:23 am)
1) The MP3 says Racing Beat on it.
2)Racing beat is not a manufacturer but a tuner.
3)I'm sure Mazda will have an exclusive contract on these parts.
4)Yes the dealers will be able to order these parts, probably before you are even able to getyour hands on the car itself.
#302 of 24043 Re: Rosenthal Mazda
Feb 16, 2001 (7:26 am)
postnobills bought a '01 ES at Rosenthal using the S-Plan.
#303 of 24043 lousy traction
Feb 16, 2001 (7:28 am)
has anyone else noticed the terrible winter traction. I have a 99 Protege 5 sad equipped with Michelin antic lapins, and the handling in the snow/ice is brutal. I know I live in the great white north ( a.k.a. Canada), but my previous cars 86 Jetta and 92 323 seemed much better in this regard even without snow tires. I find sliding around rather entertaining, but I wonder how more sedate drivers enjoy this quirk. Before anyone takes offense, I love this car, just seems Mazda needs to perform some kind of tweak on the suspension or weight distribution.
Feb 16, 2001 (7:30 am)
Sorry about the above post, gotta learn to spell, and/or type.