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#254 of 24043 Talking About Impulse Buys...unmarkedcar...
Feb 14, 2001 (8:23 pm)
Well, I am a happy owner of a 2000 Mazda Protege LX with A/C and 5-speed. I must say, however, that I have gone through a few cars in the last few years. I have actually kept the Protege for 15 months now and I have no plans for dumping it. I have well over 30,000 miles on the odometer but I just like it too much to trade it.
Here goes my list of (impulse) purchases:
1991 Nissan Truck King Cab--bought used in 1993
1993 Ford Festiva--bought new in early '94 (great car, by the way).
1980 Toyota Corona--bought way used in 1994 (neat looking but a real money pit)
1995 Ford Aspire--bought new in 1995 (good car!)
1979 Buick Century Wagon aka "The Brute"--given to me by my brother, passed on to charity--great vehicle but I already had two cars.
1996 Nissan Truck King Cab--bought new in 1996 (become very troublesome, emissions problems galore, baffled mechanics, bought back by dealership--perhaps the only bad Nissan made in the 90's, I still miss the looks of it)
1998 Nissan Frontier--bought new in 1998, I love this truck and my wife still has it, only 4,700 dollars left on the payments.
1999 Kia Sephia--what was I thinking? traded in at a moderate loss on my current vehicle, you guessed it---
2000 Mazda Protege LX--great car, bought new in November of 1999.
Like you, unmarkedcar, I have blown a lot of money and have lost a lot more on trades. I am only 30 years old and have owned more cars than all of my brother combined. I think I have come to my senses now, even though I get the crazy itch to buy my wife a Miata. Good luck fellow Mazda owners, I hope that I post good news about hitting 100,000 miles in the next two years.
#255 of 24043 protege or civic?
Feb 14, 2001 (9:49 pm)
I own a 92 Protege that I bought new in Jan. 93. It now has just over 125K on it, and has been a good car. I drive about 50 miles daily, get just around 30mpg (DX, auto). The main problem that I've had is numerous exhaust and brake repairs, more than my fair share. I've also replaced the front drive shafts, and just replaced the rear struts ($300!). I've sworn that this is the last coin I'm putting into it, and was set on buying a new civic. But the more research I do, the better the Protege sounds, with depreciation being the major drawback. The car has been a good one, with a great engine and tranny - no problems at all! I'm considering the civic LX or the Protege LX with the smaller engine, and probably the 5 speed. I'm sure I'll keep the car 3 years and maybe more, depending on how large my family grows. Both cars look good, and I'm looking to decide this next week. I guess I'm looking for some testimonial persuasion. Any help?
#256 of 24043 to keithbob14
Feb 14, 2001 (11:23 pm)
Are you going to keep the car as long as the '92 protege? If so, then the depreciation factor is nill to none if you have normal miles (100+). Then, it's probably fun vs. gas mileage. To me the Protege is just too much fun (while being a very reliable car) for the civic's better fuel economy and good reliability to overcome. They are both great cars, but (I guess what do you expect as this is a protege board) I'm a much greater fan of the Mazda.
#257 of 24043 Gas Mileage and more ....
Feb 15, 2001 (6:08 am)
My '00 ES (AT) has around 14,000 miles on it. Within the past 2 months my city driving average was 16-18 mpg range and I was wandering whether there was problem with the car .. however this past weekend I took it on a 850 miles trip and the average mpg turned out to be 27.5 (I was driving at 65-75 mph range).
Couple of days ago my wife hit an iron bar in a parking lot while backing up. The left side of the rear bumper was badly scratched! I hate to drive the car with all these visible marks on!
Since my deductible is $500 the insurance claim
will not help.
Has anyone had a bumper painting job done on their Protege?? I am curious how much it would cost to have the bumper re-painted?!?
One other thing is: the door panel right under my left elbow started to wear out ! Seems like I have
the habit of resting my elbow on the door .. but I have been driving various cars for the last 12 years and never had a problem like this ..
I am thinking of asking my dealer to take a look at it .. and we'll see ??
Besides these typical problems .. think my '00 ES
is a great car that is fun to drive.
#258 of 24043 RE: dblenickler
Feb 15, 2001 (7:38 am)
")...I can a 01 Focus with traction control, stability control and ABS for roughly $15.6K , why should I go out and get a 01 Protege?"
Go and test drive an '01 Focus. Then go test drive a Protege. When that is complete you will be a welcomed Protege owner.
Feb 15, 2001 (8:52 am)
Hey guys, I have noticed that on start up, the engine will rev up and down. Has anyone seen this. My 2000 celica will do the same thing sometimes. Is this the way the car warms itself up?
#260 of 24043 01 protege - prospective buyer
Feb 15, 2001 (9:18 am)
I am looking forward to test the protege-5 wagon coming out this May. I dont want to go thru the endurance test of reading the past 260 messages
So here goes my questions....
1) is the new 2.0L 130hp engine in any way related to FORD Focuses'? I know that it is from 626 but i am afraid of reliability problems like all Fords have.
2) I heard that Ford is gonna put Focus into the 2002 protege. is the new protege-5 wagon the initial transition? compare the protege-5 wagon with Focus wagon - I see some similarities in both their engine and exterior. I just dont wanna drive a focus-in-a-Protege.
3) for those current generation Protege owners! Please share all your complains about your car - please honestly share all the defects or short comings of Protege. honestly and without exagerations please
4) I did read the first 20 starting postings in this forum but was too tired to continue...Some owners complaint about tranny deffect...has this been fixed?
5) are the low-profile tires too noisy? I know i cant expect an econ-car to mute noises like a Lexus.
6) any rattles and squicks?? I know Honda manufactures cars with complimentary squickie and rattlie interior - free of charge
7) is it true that Ford is going to reduce the number of Mazda dealers from some hundreds to about half in the future? I worry this bacause i wanna have the convenience of near-by authorized staff to take care of my car. I admire Honda of it's network of dealers....overwhelmingly!!!
8) any other things that a prospective buyer should know about?
thanks in advance, i know these are a mouthfull please reply as much as u can. :]
#261 of 24043 Feedback survey
Feb 15, 2001 (9:34 am)
I recently got a feedback survey though mail on my recent purchase of a 01 LX... I've heard that some dealers have bribed the buyer for a good mark. Is that true and if so how do I go about in getting my dealer to benefit me? (eg. free tune up, fog lights... etc)
#262 of 24043 RE: 01 protege - prospective buyer
Feb 15, 2001 (9:40 am)
I think what you are asking for is a summary of all the posts on all of the Protege boards. I won't tell anyone who is considering a Protege to get a life, but do plan on reading the previous posts.
As far as your general Ford/Mazda theme: Don't read more into it then there is. The current Protege and Focus are completely separate; no shared components/engineering. Same with the Sport Wagon.
As far as future plan for the Protege/Focus, we may have seen a preview of this arrangement in the Escape/Tribute. HOWEVER, the Protege will continue to be built in JAPAN and the big issues on Tribute come from assembly quality and supplier problems. With the majority of content being sourced locally and Japanese assembly quality, the Focus/Protege might not be so bad. I for one will wait for more details before I cast judgment.
Last one - Dealer Reduction. Nothing to do with Ford, more to do with dealer/Mazda proffitability. It's expensive to have a bunch of small dealers moving 4 cars a month. It's like having a Wal-Mart in a town of 300.
#263 of 24043 To hayrigon
Feb 15, 2001 (11:52 am)
regarding low mpg for city driving...I have averaged between 20 and 21 mpg the last 3 fill-ups on all city driving. I attribute this to the weather here in Syracuse and the fact that I live in a part of town called "Onondaga Hill" and whichever direction I go I must drive up a rather long and steep incline to get home.
btw, I also have a driver side door panel that is worn from resting my arm there.