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#23737 of 24043 Squeeky seat and dash rattle resolution
Apr 12, 2005 (7:29 pm)
After a nasty letter and some arguing back and forth with "Customer Compliance", they are giving me $650 cash and a $100 Mazda voucher. Of course the dash still rattles (not as bad as it used to), and I had to fix the seat squeek myself.
The seat problem was actually the seatbelt latch, or more accurately the pivot joint where it attaches on the right side of the seat bottom. I took it completely apart, filed it smooth and then smothered it in silicon lube before putting it back together. So far I've had 4 weeks of quiet.
The door rattles were fixed by the installation of aftermarket "Dynamats" in all four doors. These are sold at car stereo shops and are deisgned to dampen vibration and reduce road noise through the doors, which they did, in addition to dampening the rattles.
The rattles in the window cranks (I've got a 2003 DX) were silenced with WD40, as was the cushioned pad on the left of the dash in front of the passenger, for the most part.
Finally after 18 months and a lot of do-it-myself, my Protege is as quiet as it should have been when new. Mazda agreed to the $650 and the $100 voucher as compensation for the considerable inconvenience and all the time I spent in rental cars over the last 1.5 years (44 days out of service).
Guess it ended well enough, not sure I'm entirely satisfied, but then it beats litigation, and of course the car is now FINALLY repaired. It just really bothers me that in 44 days Mazda was unable to repair any of the squeeks or rattles, while in one long Saturday I was able to silence most of them.
#23738 of 24043 Watch out for those retiring Proteges
Apr 13, 2005 (3:26 am)
With vans and SUVs circling waiting for patrons who have finished dining, the Pro zips right in and gets the first available. Man, do they get ticked off.
Yes, I like to give the F150s and other behemoths a wink and nod as I zip along, too. Also do you find you fill up the gas tank less often but quicker than they do?
how much mileage should I have left on the Portenzas with 2/32"?
I believe you are due for a tire change; you might find the stopping distance during wet conditions problematic. I would look for new ones now if you haven't already done so. Did you like your Bridgestones? If your Pro is using 15" wheels you have many other choices; my Pro5 drives on 16" and the choices seem more restricted and expensive. I would avoid dealerships as they tend to "inflate" their tire prices.
And, finally, on behalf of the world ... congratulations again on being a wise driver!
#23739 of 24043 Customer satisfaction, sort of ...
Apr 13, 2005 (3:40 am)
Finally after 18 months and a lot of do-it-myself, my Protege is as quiet as it should have been when new. Mazda agreed to the $650 and the $100 voucher as compensation ... Guess it ended well enough, not sure I'm entirely satisfied
Yes, it makes one wonder why the job was not done as a courtesy. That would avoid the mutual aggravation and the subsequent costs involved. I wonder if from a dealership's point of view, they feel "rattles" are not "real" problems just inconveniences that don't merit occupying a service technician's time? Balancing the cost of repair with the need for good customer relationship is a fine art. Hopefully, more dealerships come up with the right formula: keep your customers happy and they'll keep being your customers.
Apr 13, 2005 (5:53 am)
BTW, how much mileage should I have left on the Portenzas with 2/32"?
I think 2/32 are considered legally worn out and subject to a safety check violation. They may not pass inspection.
More importantly, they are bad enough in the rain when new. The must be absolutely horrible with only 2/32.
Apr 14, 2005 (5:26 am)
I'm cringing at the thought of $650 60K tuneups. I have a competent mechanic who does my VW and other imports. Not sure how many Proteges they work on, if any. Would any of you recommend NOT going to the dealer for a belt change if another mech. can do it cheaper. Also did you change your water pump with the belt. Some say it's worth doing to save labor if the pump fails shortly thereafter..
#23743 of 24043 205/55/16's ?????
Apr 14, 2005 (7:21 am)
I'm posting here 'cause there seems to be more traffic. I've searched the forums to see if anyone has successfully mounted 205/55/16's on their 1999 or newer protege or 2002 and newer protege5 but couldn't find anyone. Has anyone tried? I know the 205 width is no problem but the sidewall height will increase .6 inches over the stock 195/50 Dunlops. I'm aware that the speedometer will have a 5% error on the slow side of reality but am not concerned.
If no one has tried them yet, I'm going in tonight for a test fitment of BFG Traction TA's. I've got a 2002 protege5.
#23744 of 24043 Re: 205/55/16's ????? [iamz]
Apr 14, 2005 (11:06 am)
They should fit with room to spare. My track tires are a 215/50/15 which is about the same increase from the stock 195/55/15 that my 2003 Protege came with (I run 205/50/15 on the street).
#23745 of 24043 Tire : BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Apr 14, 2005 (11:30 am)
I've searched the forums to see if anyone has successfully mounted 205/55/16's on their 1999 or newer protege or 2002 and newer protege5 but couldn't find anyone. Has anyone tried? I know the 205 width is no problem but the sidewall height will increase .6 inches over the stock 195/50 Dunlops.
Are you aware that the Traction T/A also come in 205/50/16? I found this via Tiretrends; the BFG part number is 88328 according to that site. That way you should have no concern about fitment. The Traction T/A are second on my short list of replacements for the Dunlops; the Toyo Proxes TPT currently top the list.
p.s. whatever you end up choosing, I'd appreciate hearing what you think of your new tires before I fork over the big bucks.
Apr 14, 2005 (12:32 pm)
Autonomous, you were right, I needed new tires badly.
Just back from Discount Tire, I bought Kumho ECSTA 711, 205-50-15HRs. Good enough for my driving, should last four + years, sales guy said 30K. The Discount Tire store was having a Grand Opening, the package came to $367.80 including a good light lunch of fruit, salad, and great brownies while I waited 20 minutes for mounting them. Oh yeah, got a good digital tire guage too. Also free lifetime balancing, rotation and road hazzard replacement.
The tires ride so much smoother and quieter than the OEM Bridgestones -- like day and night. Road imperfections are nowhere near as harsh. On smooth pavement, which is mostly what abounds here, it's like riding on marshmellows or in a larger car. And the strange clacking sound I have been hearing from the left front wheel area is GONE. Have no idea what it was. We checked and nothing was loose.
My car is a 2001 Protegé LX 2.0L.