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Mazda Protege, Sedan
Aug 18, 2004 (4:15 am)
I would advise VERY strongly against towing ANYTHING with a Protege or Protege5. For one thing, it has unibody construction, meaning there's no frame underneath to handle the torque a trailer will place on your chassis in turns and sways, and when accelerating and decelerating. Have you slid under your car and looked? There isn't much up under there to carry the load -- even the tongue weight alone will put a lot of stress on the chassis. And the car doesn't weigh very much; a mishap with even a 1,000-lb. trailer could cause you to lose complete control of the car.
I used to own a 1994 Mazda B2300 pickup (aka Ford Ranger), and even though it had a real ladder frame and it weighed quite a bit more than my Protege, it had a lot of difficulty with a pop-up camper that only weighed 1,400 pounds. (And the truck had a little more weight in the rear thanks to a rear axle and differential -- the Protege ain't got much back there to hold it down!) With the truck and trailer, crosswinds and downhill grades gave me some white-knuckled experiences.
A trailer will definitely try to "steer you around," and I can't imagine trying to tow anything with my Protege after my experiences with a truck.
#23533 of 24043 Trailer Hitch
Aug 18, 2004 (4:54 am)
If you, or anyone you know is at all handy, you can install the thing yourself in about 20 minutes. You can buy a hidden hitch for $100 from etrailer.com. I don't know about the wiring though, so I can't give you an idea on that cost. I don't tow with mine though, I just put my bike rack on it.
I agree with Meade that I wouldn't tow anything with the car, but I've read many other places of people towing all sorts of things with it. Mostly motorcycle trailers and small tool trailers for auto cross. If you check other places, you'll probably find a 50/50 range of people for and against.
#23534 of 24043 Re: Trailer Hitch [meinrad]
Aug 18, 2004 (5:23 am)
That "hidden hitch" is going to add about 25 to 50 pounds to the very back of your car. Then, most trailers have a tongue weight of 100 to 200 pounds (our popup camper's tongue weight was 160). So stand on your back bumper and see what the trailer will do to your rear suspension just standing still! Then imagine the trailer bouncing and transmitting that force to the rear of your car via the tongue like a see-saw, and exerting equivalent forces on the body of your car as you brake, turn, take curves, etc.
Whatever you do, make sure you do not exceed the GVWR of the vehicle, which includes the tongue weight and all passengers, cargo, etc. I think if you add it all up, you'll discover that your car really isn't designed to take on a trailer. And keep in mind if your manual says no, you'll void your warranty.
Hey, I don't mean to be so negative! But I did pull a small (1,500 pounds ain't big) trailer with a larger vehicle that was rated at up to 2,000 pounds, and lemme tell ya, I had some scary moments even with a framed truck that was 500 pounds heavier than the Protege5!
#23535 of 24043 Thanks Meade and Meinrad
Aug 18, 2004 (6:44 am)
Thanks for the advice, it's not what I wanted to hear, but you have effectively squashed towing as an option and I will look to other avenues. Really appreciate your prompt responses to my inquiry.
#23536 of 24043 How 'bout a second-hand pickup truck?
Aug 18, 2004 (7:27 am)
Whatcha towing, by the way?
Aug 18, 2004 (11:17 am)
a new thread elsewhere where a guy is towing his jetski. He posted a picture of the jetski/trailer and the P5. Forum rules prohibit my posting a link here and your email is private.
I'm not saying Meade is wrong, I'm just saying that others are doing it, and you may willing to take the same risks. Chances are you will be doing permanant damage to the car, but no one will know until time passes.
#23538 of 24043 Re: Towing Advice please [riopelle]
Aug 18, 2004 (11:50 am)
I have towed with my P5 and it is not an issue. I have the hidden hitch which works very well. I have a small utility trailer that I use on many long distance trips. I have a 20 cu ft sears box attached to it. Again, not very heavy, mostly luggage and the like.
I have also towed a 16 ft boat and trailer with no issues. I agree that you should keep the load to less than 1000 lbs and 100 lbs hitch weight.
The P5 suspension handles the loads quite well. Give it another thought.
#23539 of 24043 Re: Just checked [meinrad]
Aug 19, 2004 (3:45 am)
Well, I didn't say it couldn't be DONE ... I'm sure you can attach a snowplow blade to a Yugo and move a little snow with it too ... but in a similar manner, I'd recommend highly against it.
Aug 19, 2004 (11:58 am)
i THINK i found a Protege that i want to look at, finally. an automatic with SAB/ABS package. 2003 with 9000 miles. hopefully it is still available. not crazy about the idea of TWO black Mazda's in the garage, but out of about 50 cars, this is the only one with the safety package.
hope its CARFAX is okay....
#23541 of 24043 Re: Just checked [mdaffron]
Aug 19, 2004 (1:53 pm)
Your opinion of course, but I would hardly compare a snowplow blade to towing a small trailer.
Since the Protege is allowed to tow why not the P5?