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You are in the Mazda Protege
What is this discussion about?
Mazda Protege, Sedan
Jun 16, 2004 (5:48 pm)
The 1993-2002 4 cyl. 626 and 2002-2003 Protegé all share the FS-DE 2.0l engine. It has certainly changed since it was first introduced with the 626 in late 1992 (it produces more horsepower, no longer has hydraulic lash adjusters, etc.). And the Protegé must have some additional differences (such as the annoying cause of the "cold engine rattle," VTCS) because the 2002 626 was not ULEV whereas the 2002 Protegé was.
I have not heard of any reliability problems with this engine, though. As far as I know, they (like most other Mazda engines) tend to be all but guaranteed to last 200k miles.
The horror stories you've heard do only pertain to the 4 cylinder 626, but they are about the transmission, not the engine. The automatic transmission in the 1994-2002 626 4 cyl. is a Ford unit; the CD4E. They finally got it reasonably reliable in 1999 or so, but it's still not great and it's also not very smooth. The Protegé uses a Mazda transmission that is smoother, more responsive, and has a much better reputation.
You're correct about the warranties.
Jun 20, 2004 (3:38 am)
I have a situation similar to yours. The reason my trouble free 01 ES has only 27K on it is my 82 Jetta Diesel that still gives around 48mpg and uses the lowest priced fuel at the pump!
Jun 20, 2004 (9:56 pm)
also, at 130hp, it seems kind of underpowered for a 2.0 liter. with an automatic, can a person driving a LOT (she has a 60 mile round trip commute each day at least) expect anywhere near 30mpg's in real life? or is it Civic/Corolla time to get better mileage.
I ring the heck out of my manual 03 Pro (shift at 5k all the time) and I get 29 mpg constantly. It'll do better if I drove under 80 mph.
#23452 of 24043 My 1.8-liter 2000 ES gets 29 city/31 highway.
Jun 21, 2004 (4:10 am)
Even at 77,000 miles.
Jun 21, 2004 (7:18 am)
My 5-speed never got better than 30MPG even on fairly laidback highway commutes.
#23454 of 24043 Re: [anonymousposts #23452]
Jun 21, 2004 (7:28 am)
My 2.0L 5sp got 38 mpg on a trip where I kept it at around 65 mph. If I'm going 80-85, then it drops down to about 30 mpg.
Jun 21, 2004 (7:30 am)
"My 2.0L 5sp got 38 mpg on a trip where I kept it at around 65 mph"
I would go nuts only going 65 mph on the highway. I generally set the cruise at 72-80 depending on the speed limit at the time. I generally do 8 mph over the speed limit.
#23456 of 24043 Re: [anonymousposts #23454]
Jun 21, 2004 (8:31 am)
Well, there's not much you can do when you're driving on a two lane highway with little to no passing opportunities headed to northern Minnesota from the Twin Cities. All the trucks with boat trailers sharing the road with you pretty much guarantee that you're not going to go too fast.
#23457 of 24043 doesn't matter
Jun 21, 2004 (9:17 am)
there are NO Proteges out there with ABS. ditto for Corollas. searched within 100 miles. and the Elantras OFFER ABS as a package, but it isn't actually produced without the sunroof option too. you SHOULD be able to get Package 4, but you find that they all have Package 5.
ditto for Mazda3.
she really wanted a smaller car with ABS. the only way to do it, WITHOUT a sunroof, is going the VW route. or base model Accord LX.
BLUE - i thought you had a 330i? i swore you used to have a Jetta Wolfie that you hated so you got a 330i? wrong guy? or is your Pro a 2nd car?
29mpg leadfooting it is good indeed! but like i said, no Mazdas out there with ONLY ABS.
thanks for the input though everyone!
Jun 21, 2004 (9:59 am)
Out of all the cars I have owned and in the 8 years I have been driving my ABS has only activated three times and during one of those I purposefully stopped hard to see if it would activate. It's probably more important in areas with more severe inclement weather.