Last post on Jun 09, 2012 at 11:01 PM
You are in the Mazda Protege
What is this discussion about?
Mazda Protege, Sedan
Jul 10, 2003 (8:55 am)
Almost bought a new F150 the other day but Ford's quality scared us off, especially if we are going to pay $20,000 or so. Might as well buy an Element.
To save ourselves about $15000 vs. a new F150 or an Element we are about to buy a 1997 Dakota V6 club cab to satisfy our need for a Home Depot-mobile and something to get our bikes to the local trail. A little scared of it too but it's cheap so if it's a piece we will sell it .. QUICK.
I have no doubts the Protege is a reliable car. My only argument is that you can't say that you should only judge Mazda by cars you think do well in quality tests. We all know that is unfair. You could turn that around and say the Corolla is more reliable than a Camry so only look at the Corollas quality ratings.
But I digress...zoom,zoom.
Jul 10, 2003 (9:16 am)
If the vehicle in question is what you're considering, then its own reliability should be examined, in addition to the overall record of the make. Why would I consider the record of an SUV when I'm interested in a compact? Or vice versa?
I seem to recall R&T or MT correcting a DIRECT comparison article between the Accord and 6, stating they'd tied, or the 6 was slightly ahead instead of the Accord being slightly ahead.
#21890 of 24043 reliability reports...
Jul 10, 2003 (9:44 am)
I agree with mdaffron regarding those reliability reports...IMO, it's all a conspriacy benefitting whatever car manufacturer they want to. Having a plethora of stats. and research education, I consult these reports but remember to keep their bias in mind...you have to as a researcher! Personal experience carries substantial weight. Having come from a VERY troublesome Chevy, I cannot fathom that their cars have less problems then the industry average. A red flag should go up!!! My Chevy had over $10,000 of repairs made on it in four years...these were not the average tires, belts, fluid changes, brakes, etc. These were a transmission, three air conditioning systems, several ABS sensors (at $500 a pop, these can add up quick!), cooling systems, etc. The experience, and that of many of my friends and colleagues, soured me on ever buying "American" again. I went to Mitsu and took a gamble since much of the car is Chrysler...luckily no problems. The only repairs I have made are a radiator cap ($14), a faulty transmission pan gasket ($40 w/ new tranny fluid), and some burned out switches over the course of 180,000 miles. In comparison to the Chevy, ZERO tranny problems, and the original coolant in the air conditioning system that still provides frigid air.
All in all, go by research COUPLED with your experiences and the experienes of other owners. I have a tough time with the latter because no one drives my 36,000 miles per year so that part is a gamble.
mdaffron...new Protege sitting in my garage with 3000 miles in three weeks...ZERO problems, not even the new car worries that need to be corrected...couldn't be happier!
Jul 10, 2003 (10:29 am)
The 6 has won numerous comparisons. The one where it was edged out by the Accord (Car and Driver?) the next month's issue cited a mathematical error and declared the 6 and Accord joint winners. It won Automobile mag's All Star. The others were all tested and eligible and lost.
I bought the 4 cylinder Mazda6, but only because of availability/gas prices/demand-supply (on the manual V6) issues. I would have happily bought it if I didn't value my gas money, and if they were available and the demand didn't force prices through the roof! And stop insisting on carrying on with the disparaging and misleading "Ford-engine" story - the block is Ford casted, the header, valves, VVT(-like) system and everything else are all Mazda designed!
I'm only responding to this here since you brought it up - we shoul take this to the 6 and comparison boards, although this is truly a dead-horse discussion there (Ford input on the V6 engine)
#21897 of 24043 OK boys, send out the dogs.
Jul 10, 2003 (10:58 am)
Check all the car washes.
Check all the schools.
Check all the police stations and holding cells.
It's been 10 days since Dale has posted.
I think she really may be lying face-down on the kitchen floor with maggots all over her this time.