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#20886 of 24043 If you experience a Jerk/jolt during A/C clutch engagement.....
Apr 22, 2003 (4:50 am)
ALL 1999 and 2000 Protege Owners, take note:
DTC'S P1633, P1631, P0173 UNSTABLE IDLE/STALLING
0003500 Dealer Repair Information
Customer may experience one or more of the following:
* Charge light on
* DTC P0173 (caused by excessive noise in O2 sensor circuit)
* DTC P1631
* DTC P1633
* Unstable Idle (Surging) under electical loads (cooling fans, rear
* Stalling coming to a stop or at a stop, due to the unstable idle.
Condition may be caused by excessive voltage spikes and/or noise
produced within the alternators that had an incorrectly soldered
condencer and were installed in vehicles produced in March,
April and May of 1999.
If you incounter a vehicle with this concern replace the alternator
and verify repair.
Copyright © Mazda North American Operations
#20887 of 24043 Nick or anyone else ...
Apr 22, 2003 (6:27 am)
Do you also have proof of a TSB correcting the cold start clutch slipping phenomenon? A fellow member claimed there is such a beast and he's taking his car in to have it performed. I'd like to have the actual TSB number or even better, a copy of the TSB itself so my service writer can't come back and play dumb with me.
Apr 22, 2003 (6:28 am)
Thanks; you just answered the question I was going to ask you anyway! You may not have to prove anything to me; I may well be cruising up to your pad on a new set of BFG Touring T/A VR4s anyway!!!
Apr 22, 2003 (6:52 am)
MT000003848 - CLUTCH CHATTER DURING COLD TAKEOFF
Some vehicles may exhibit a clutch chatter or judder when releasing clutch during cold conditions. This may be caused by the flwheel and clutch cover surface materials creating a chatter or judder during clutch engagement. The flywheel and clutch cover has been revised to correct this concern. 1. Verify customer concern.
2. Remove the manual transmission according to the following Workshop Manual procedure: * 5 Speed: MANUAL TRANSMISSION REMOVAL/INSTALLATION M25M-R (section 05-15A-3).
3. Remove clutch disc, clutch cover and flywheel according to the Workshop Manual procedure CLUTCH UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION (section 05-10).
4. Install new clutch disc, clutch cover and flywheel according to the Workshop Manual procedure CLUTCH UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION (section 05-10).
5. Reinstall the manual transmission according to the following Workshop Manual procedure: * 5 Speed: MANUAL TRANSMISSION REMOVAL/INSTALLATION M25M-R (section 05-15A-3).
6. Verify repair. Part(s)Information: Part Number Description Qty Notes FP01-16-410A-9U Clutch Cover 1 1.8L FS05-16-410A Clutch Cover 1 2.0L FP49-11-500A Flywheel 1 1.8L FS01-11-500A Flywheel 1 2.0L B633-16-460A-9U Clutch Disc 1 1.8L FS06-16-460 Clutch Disc 1 2.0L Note: Make sure the dealer contacts DAG to specify order the above parts.
#20890 of 24043 Protege ES Tire Treadwear
Apr 22, 2003 (7:21 am)
I have a 2001 Protege ES that came with the Dunlop 5000 tires. So far I have 40,500 miles on them, but it looks like it's about time for new ones. I think I'm down to about 3/32's.
I was looking at the offerings for the tire size on Tirerack and was intrigued by the low price for the Khumos ($61), but they are only H-rated, instead of the V-rated that are OEM for this car.
I also looked at the Dunlop FM901 tires that are only $71, but the treadwear rating is only 200, compared to the treadwear rating for the Dunlop 5000's which is 360.
So, I will probably play it safe and get the 5000's again at $102 each.
Your type of driving probably affects the treadwear of your tires. I have a mostly highway commute, although I tend to be fairly aggressive driving in the city.
Does anybody have any personal real world experience with the H-rated Khumo's or the V-rated Dunlop FM901's?
Apr 22, 2003 (7:29 am)
how about Yokohama EVS 100?
#20892 of 24043 Bridgestone RE930's
Apr 22, 2003 (7:38 am)
Anyone have any feedback or experience with Bridgestone RE930's on their Protege? Just got my money back from Dunlop and am shopping for a new set of tires. As much as I loved the defective Sport A2's, I won't be going back there again any time soon.
Apr 22, 2003 (7:53 am)
Note that this is a TSB and not a recall. My service adviser (who I just got off the phone with) said TSBs are used as a "guide" to perform the work if anyone experiences the problem associated with them, but they're not "recalls" in the sense that Mazda doesn't do this for free.
But by the wording of the TSB -- that Mazda has made this change to "correct this concern" -- it almost appears to read like a recall.
So, to summarize ... do you know if this is being done free of charge?
I have been experiencing this phenomenon for at least half my car's life of 54,000 miles so far.
P.S. (added later in typical Meade fashion) Hmmm, now that I think about it, I might be in a pretty good position after all! I have an extended warranty (to 100,000 miles) with a deductible of only 50 bucks, and since this TSB includes replacing the clutch disc, I could use this TSB to get a totally new clutch for 50 smackers!!! WHADDA BAHGAIN!!!)
Apr 22, 2003 (8:01 am)
You asked for the TSB in your prior post.
I know some people that have had this TSB done and it was free of charge (warranty).
Apr 22, 2003 (8:40 am)
I know people who have gotten the Kumhos on Integras and loved them. The Dunlop FM901s are for looks only. I would not recommend them. If you live somewhere warm year-round, I would recommend the Toyo Proxes T1-S, otherwise the SP Sport 5000ms are the way to go assuming you do not want to change tire sizes.
If you are willing to go wider, then there are a lot more options out there, but keep in mind that these are only 6" wide rims. Over 40k on the Dunlops is very good. I got less than half that which makes me worry about how often I will be replacing tires on my Miata. The OEM Bridgestones only have a treadwear of 140!