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Mazda Protege, Sedan
#17429 of 24043 Car and Driver contradicts itself!
Oct 09, 2002 (3:20 am)
Even though I'm a C&D supporter, as most of you know, I get irritated when a magazine contradicts itself. Now, we all know (dont' we?) that the interior of the third-generation Protege (1999-2002 so far) hasn't changed except for some minor trim adjustments. The mechanics of the interior, such as the way the seats are mounted to the frame, has not changed in the Protege since 1999. So ...
In the November 2002 comparo, they write, "The seat is park-bench hard, and footroom under the front seats is on the tight side."
Yet in a similar comparo (again won by the Protege) in 2000, they wrote, "For both two and three occupants in the rear seat, the Mazda ranked just behind the Focus. Both of these sedans have high, firm rear benches with good thigh support and excellent footroom under the front buckets."
HEY, C&D, TAKE OFF THOSE BIG POOFIE YELLOW MICKEY-MOUSE-FEET BEDROOM SLIPPERS WHEN YOU DO TEST DRIVES!!!
I think after all these years, I finally have enough fodder to go head-to-head with the C&D editors in a letter to the editor (those of you who read the mag know what I'm talking about) ...
#17430 of 24043 They do like to back-talk. :)
Oct 09, 2002 (3:55 am)
But they do seem like to like the same kind of car I like (except they pay scant heed to reliability).
Oct 09, 2002 (3:57 am)
I keep my Dunlop SP Sport A2s at 34psi at all four wheels.
Response to turn-in seems to be a bit faster. Ride is a little firmer, a little better on mpg (on the freeway...I take curvy roads way too enthusiastically much of the time, which drops my local mpg figures). No noticeable uneven wear so far, except I don't seem to roll over onto the sidewalls as much as when I kept the tires at 32psi.
#17433 of 24043 Would setting the pressure at...
Oct 09, 2002 (4:20 am)
34 front (heavy part of the car)
32 rear (lighter)
cause any tire damage, or the PRO to handle badly?
I had this set-up for 1 week and it was good, but I changed it to 32x4.
What do you all think?
a) 32 or 34
b) 32 F and 34 R
#17434 of 24043 Tire pressure
Oct 09, 2002 (5:24 am)
I keep mine (195/50R16) at 34 front and 32 rear. I saw no uneven tirewear on my Dunlops when I replaced them. They were worn evenly right down to the wear bars. I do think keeping the fronts a little higher helps unersteer a bit.
Oct 09, 2002 (6:08 am)
C&D has a habit of contradicting themselves. They really should be careful on that, because it makes some readers mad.
I work in PR, so I can get their office number for you if you wanna... (just kidding)
#17436 of 24043 Good morning!
Oct 09, 2002 (6:38 am)
After a lot of experimenting over the 3 years of ownership, I have found that 30 psi on all 4 tires gives me the best of all the worlds, namely good handling(no squeal) and comfortable ride on my 205-55-15 BFG v4 tires.
Lunch drives: I have a stretch of road next to the airport that goes to the UPS terminal(6-8 miles). Completely empty during lunch hours. Lotsa curves rated at 25mph that I can take at 50-55 wihtout worrying too much since the road is empty. as a side serving, you can enjoy Fort Mifflin on one side and the Delaware river on the other side of the road.
Pro has less space under the front seats: that is 'cause in 2000, the civic and corolla were low seat cars. This year, its different, The corolla is very high and so is the focus. It's matter of reference, my dear friends.
Oct 09, 2002 (6:51 am)
That first comparo was quite a while ago. They tested different cars back then. Maybe the foot room was good back then, but the 2002 comparo isn't testing the same cars as the 2000 comparo. I don't see how they are contradicting themselves. What was good two years ago may not be good now. That's why they have to do new comparos every so often because cars don't stay the same. Maybe C&D said the brakes were good on a 69' Impala. Would they say the same thing now? You can write your letter to the editor and I'll bet the editor echos what I just said. Just something to think about.
Oct 09, 2002 (7:16 am)
Good to see a lot of people appreciate the changed handling characteristics with slightly higher front tire pressure. I agree that you tend to feel a little less understeer, and sidewall roll/flex at this speed, when driving 'enthusiastically'.
Yesterday I went and changed the pressures to 34 Front and 33 rear. The ride and handling compromise seems ideal for my taste, at this setting. I'm going to watch my gas mileage for this tankful and report back as well, although I'm sure it'll be up, but only just.