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#16932 of 24043 Auto problems...
by vocus
Sep 20, 2002 (10:41 am)
I had problems with both autos in my Proteges. In the 99 DX, it would kinda slip when downshifting from 3-2 when passing. The problem started to get more prominent, but the dealer could never make the car do it. I traded the car at 38K, and they hadn't found any problems up to then.
On the 2001 ES, the transmission would produce an audible squeak when shifting. The Mazda dealer literally told me that they didn't know what was causing the problem or how to diagnose it.
#16933 of 24043 "New car," chikoo? Think again.
by mdaffron
Sep 20, 2002 (11:08 am)
Three of the first four items you've listed as replacements are wear items that normally do get replaced. And we all know about the ignition coil recall. Mine was replaced too, even though it wasn't doing anything wrong.
I would be interested in hearing why you needed a new steering rack and new window regulators. My 2000 ES has gone farther in less time (43,300 miles in 28 months) and other than normal wear items and the coil, I haven't had to replace anything on the car. Well, except for a plastic clip I broke when I tried to cram too big a box in the trunk, and a CD player I jammed by putting a CD with a label in it (big no-no in owner's manual).
Meade
Sep 20, 2002 (11:20 am)
>>And do all these replacement parts make you have less faith in your Protege? << No. I seriously believe that any and all brands have the same niggling problems. >>New window regulators and steering rack?<< & >>I would be interested in hearing why you needed a new steering rack and new window regulators<< Yup! Steering rack made a whining sound while turning right(or was it left?) when it is more than 85F outside temp. Window regulators? well they made clicking sounds(very light, to be honest).
Sep 20, 2002 (11:30 am)
"Steering rack made a whining sound while turning right(or was it left?) when it is more than 85F outside temp."
Ummm, the rack is a piece of metal with teeth in it that engages a pinion from the steering shaft. How can it make a "whining" sound? I would suspect you were either low on power steering fluid or the belt was loose. I'm amazed they replaced your rack from that description.
"Window regulators? well they made clicking sounds(very light, to be honest)."
Oh lord, this sounds like a Vocus complaint. All four of them? Could there have been debris in the window channels?
Meade
Sep 20, 2002 (11:34 am)
I feel like I'm reading "the Jetta Chronicles".
Has the the dealer said you have "mouse ears" yet?
I think Vocus knows a good lemon law attorney.
Sep 20, 2002 (11:39 am)
all I did was show them the problem.
How they fixed it is their issue. Right?
Why should I worry.
No. I am no vocus-type guy.
I do not hound the delaer for a silly problem.
The windows were clicking since last year. Since I was in for the transmission thing, the advisor asks me "Anything else to be taken care of?"
So i point to the windows and say "See if you can fix this.
And he does.
Same for the steering rack. It whined for the first 36 months. I finally pointed it out to them in the 36 month of my ownership when original warranty was running out.
#16938 of 24043 You didn't answer my question, chikus.
by mdaffron
Sep 20, 2002 (11:51 am)
All four window regulators?
#16939 of 24043 Meinrad & Chikoo...
by vocus
Sep 20, 2002 (11:52 am)
Gee, thanks for the warm welcome. I know I am a finicky person when it comes to my car, and don't expect anyone else to understand that.
With the regulators, the clicking is sign of failure. Anyone who owns a VW (an older one, that is) knows that clicking sound and what it means all too well...
#16940 of 24043 If clicking is a sign of window failure in older VWs ...
by mdaffron
Sep 20, 2002 (11:53 am)
the modern failure sign is when the window falls into the door and disappears with a resounding CLUNK?
Talk about "one-touch" auto-down, LOL!
For the record (and to keep this on-topic), the power windows in my 2000 ES -- all four of them -- are working fine and don't make any strange noises.
Meade
Sep 20, 2002 (12:08 pm)
No, the window failures are more common in the 2000 and older models than the newer ones. That's what I meant. The sound is still a click, I had one fall in on me in a loaner I had.
VW is also now replacing all regulators free of charge, up to 3 years from date of purchase without a mileage limit. It's not a hard job to do either, I watched someone do both of theirs in their Golf at the meet I went to.