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Mazda Protege, Sedan
Aug 27, 2002 (7:06 pm)
I just found a 1993 LX Mazda Protege with 37000kms (22000 miles)..fully loaded with a/c, owned by my moms old maid friend, who in 9 years never even went on a highway with the car!
But serviced every 6 months at mazda dealer, and had car rustproofed yearly, due to the fact we live in montreal.
The car looks like new, drives great and she wants $5900 cdn ($3800 usd).
I was about to blow a pile of $ on a new Accent, kinda nervous buying a 10 yr old car..is it reliable think?
#16360 of 24043 Cripes, where is the love, boys? ABS vs. the old thang...
Aug 27, 2002 (10:40 pm)
This is how I see it. I got a wife of 18 years and a 6 year old son. I love them both very much. The next family car purchased for the Kline household, will have side-air bags and ABS. I might choose to make rationalizations pro or con, nonetheless safety innovations are introduced everyday in everything from sneakers to cribs to Happy Meal toys! I won't fight these safety inovations, I can't see the benefit in refusing to change with the times and give my loved ones every possible chance to escape injury in an accident. However, I respect every ones opinion on this subject and I'm glad auto manufactures allow folks to choose. For now! If I was to bet, I'd bet; with-in 5 years all cars will come standard with ABS and side air bags.
Aug 27, 2002 (11:04 pm)
i live in snowland, and abs are no help at all, in fact most here I know prefer without, myself included
#16362 of 24043 Let me be the first...
Aug 28, 2002 (12:32 am)
...to wish Dinu a happy birthday.
Happy Birthday, Dinu!
Aug 28, 2002 (12:52 am)
Did a little research here...turns out "Step, Stay, and Steer" was part of a Ford campaign to get people to use ABS correctly.
Sorry to inflict Fordness onto the discussion...but I have to say that their three little words have helped me out on more than one occasion.
Aug 28, 2002 (2:17 am)
I like ABS and I live in Alaska so I get plenty of snow. However my last vehicle was a truck and having ABS caused me an accident. My truck in 2wd the ABS worked great. I rarely drove in 4wd but when I did the ABS was crap. If I hit the brakes the truck would slide sideways. Even though I knew this I was so used to driving in 2wd that one day when it was icy I was in 4wd and came around a curve to see a stopped car. I did like I was supposed to. Hit the brakes and tried to stear off the road. Instead I went sideways and the side of my truck met the rear of a suburban. After the truck was repaired I got rid of it. When the ABS worked in 2wd I was glad to have it and it saved me from a few acidents. Thats why I have it on my protege.
I don't however like snow tires. I know they make you stop faster and all but in the summer the roads here all have huge ruts in them from the snow tires. They have to re-pave the main highways every year. And before they pave them again it is almost to dangerous to switch lanes at over 70mph because the ruts make you lose control of your car. They also fill up with water and cause hydroplaning problems. I don't think I will be getting snow tires for my protege this year. Maybe next year but it depends on how the car does in the snow with the stock tires. I probably won't even drive the car if it snows more than 6". The snowmachine (probably known as a snowmobile to most of you) is just more fun.
Aug 28, 2002 (3:11 am)
That's why MN only allows studless snow tires which don't do any more damage to roads than regular tires.
Aug 28, 2002 (4:11 am)
Get in this morning and all these off topic food posts with the host leading the way! Hopefully Pat sent herself a terse email regarding that type of behavior!
ABS, one time for sure I think it saved me, 5 times it put me into the middle of a snowy intersection. I tend to try and save the money on it if I can, but my P5 has it now since that was the one the dealer could get at the time. My preferance though is no ABS.
And just a note about car cooking, don't let the cheese from your pizza drip onto the fan, man it gets everywhere!
#16368 of 24043 Safety Features
Aug 28, 2002 (4:19 am)
The LoveTrain brought up family as a reason to have the most safety features you can get.
While I agree completely with that, it's funny what people do in practice. I've talked to women who drive those huge Ford Excursions and other such vehicles. Often their reasoning is that it's so big and safe. But then you see them pulling out of parking lots right in front of speeding 18 wheelers. Side airbags, ABS, the whole deal won't help you there!
If you just watch people, the cars they drive and how they drive them it's really quite interesting. MiniVan's full of kids seem to always be the ones turning right on red directly in front of me, usually wihout ever stopping at the read light. I'm sure that parent has researched the car seats and the car, baby proofed the house, researched the day care center for safety, but then drives like a maniac.
All the safety features in the world don't make up for bad driving. Unless of course you have a car like in Judge Dredd (I think) where the whole cabin fills with foam in an accident and creates a little safety cocoon for the passenger.