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#15597 of 24043 Recall -- Been there, done that!
Jul 26, 2002 (3:41 am)
Note to hosts: There are two references to "that group" below; however, I am not promoting the group; I'm merely pointing Town Hall members to a piece of helpful information that I posted there.
Like I thought I would, I too received Mazda's recall notice in my mailbox yesterday. This happened to coincide very nicely with a visit to my dealership's service department that was already planned, so I had the recall performed. I asked why my coil needed replacing when the car's been running fine for 40,000 miles, and the mechanic (I never talk to service writers; I've been a customer at my dealership since 1991 and I know some of the mechanics by name!) said that some '99 and '00 ES's "up north" had had some coils break down. That's all he knew. Anyway, mine was replaced and I SWEAR the car has a tad more lively acceleration now; also the slight hesitation I used to experience once in a while taking off in first (it's a five-speed) seems to be gone.
I have scanned the recall notice and placed it in the Files section at the Yahoo group. It's called "Recall 7-02.pdf." You'll need Acrobat to open it. I have also taken a nice pic of the new coil; it's in the Photos section at the group under "Meade's Proteges." It's called "Recall replacement coil.jpg."
I wish I'd taken a look at the original coil before it was replaced; maybe one of you with a '99 or '00 ES with the original coil can take a pic and post it for comparison to see if there's a physical difference. I have no idea what the change is; maybe somebody like maltb can enlighten us a little more?
The whole job took about half an hour, and look at those shiny screws!
Some of you who've been following my goings-on of late may remember that this visit to my service department was really to fix my stinky A/C. Well, I was a little timid and expecting the old "Could not duplicate" since (of course) the a/c had no odor whatsoever yesterday, but here's an example of a good service department: Instead of spraying that cleaner into the ducts and giving me my car back, my mechanic met with me and the service writer and said he'd like to have the car for a day sometime soon so he can take the heater box out and physically clean it for me -- to make sure all the mildew is gone. Of course this is a warranty job. So I'll be scheduling a day at camp for Zoomster sometime in the next week or two.
Is that service or WHAT?
Jul 26, 2002 (3:55 am)
I need to move to the Commonwealth! Can't ask for better service. Makes you always want to keep Mazda's in your garage forever. Most car buyers never consider the service they are going to receive after their purchase.
I called my service writer and he said my 01 isn't on the recall list.
On another note, with only 12k on my Potenzas, I feel like I'm not glued to the road. When I take a corner hard they squeal and during a rainstorm last week, I was scared to death. Mazda needs to consider a better OEM tire.
Jul 26, 2002 (3:57 am)
While I was waiting at the dealership yesterday, I took the opportunity to stroll among the Proteges on the lot. And I saw the most expensive Protege I've ever seen. It was a blue (is it called "Midnight Blue?") Protege5 with the new side signal lights, loaded with everything but the kitchen sink -- stereo, CD, Sport Shift (yuk), moonroof, LEATHER, chrome alloys, etc. They'd even pinstriped it (again, yuk). Price? $19,170. Wowch. There was a Tribute on the lot for $1,000 less than that!
Anyway, I found the car I would've bought yesterday if I didn't have my way-cool 2000 ES already. It was a blue (love that blue) Protege5 5-speed with no roof (i.e. more headroom for big ol' me), leather seats and all the usual options. It was in the mid-$17s. Beautiful car.
They had original 2002s and "mid-year refresh" models on the lot, so I had a chance to compare them. I noticed that they've toned down the shiny trim on the dash considerably -- you know, those "carbon fiber" lookalikes surrounding the center console -- they're not shiny anymore. In fact, on that blue Protege5 I was looking at, the sides of the console actually looked more like matte plastic -- more along the lines of the trim in my 2000 ES, but without the golf-ball dimples.
I really like those side signals though.
#15600 of 24043 Pete ... What size are your wheels?
Jul 26, 2002 (3:59 am)
If they're 15s, you can do what I did and plus-zero your next tires and get a set of Dunlop SP Sport A2s in 205/50HR15. After 6,000 miles, these things still stick to the road like glue even in a downpour. I can't praise them enough (as you may have noticed).
P.S. Unfortunately, I don't think Mazda's listening. They've been putting Poortenzas on their cars at least since my first Protege, a 1992 LX I purchased in September 1991 and proceeded to total (hydroplaning, of course) in August 1992 at 28,000 miles. In my wanderings around the lot yesterday, I was pleased to see new Proteges with Dunlops on them, but the 626s were still shod with Poortenza RE92s. I hope they don't put 'em on my 2005 Mazda6!!!
Jul 26, 2002 (4:07 am)
There are 2 blue Protege5's.......Midnight Blue(my favorite)kind of a dark navy and lighter blue similar to the MP3 color. The Sedan needs a blue color. Although, I believe I've seen a few 00 sedans in Midnight Blue, it was a rare color.
#15602 of 24043 What a nice service department!
Jul 26, 2002 (4:09 am)
They're taking care of the stink the right way. Stick with them and promote the heck out of them!
Jul 26, 2002 (4:17 am)
Yes they are 15" wheels. It looks like I'm going to buy tires this fall for both of our cars. My Wife's 01 MPV needs new rubber with only 23K. Minivans are brutal on tires. I've had good results with Discount Tire and their prices are similar to Tirerack after you pay mounting and ship.
Hey, if you and your Wife have any more rugrats in the future:), consider the MPV. I HATED minivans, but the MPV handles very well and the GFX package looks way cool, it even comes in Midnight blue.
#15604 of 24043 That was me on M-3. Insurance.
Jul 26, 2002 (4:19 am)
Gratiot does ring a bell. I don't know how I ended up on it, but I headed in generally the right direction and waited to hit an interstate listed on my set of directions. I eventually made it to my appointment with a few minutes to spare.
I insure 3 cars (two drivers, both over 25 etc.) on the same policy (my 99Pro is the costliest to insure at $240/6months since it's the newest, so the coll & comp is highest). Might be some discount for that too, but this agent's always been charging me less than other agents, even those from the same insurer (Allstate). I think it's because he's been in the business so long that he's willing to take less commission on new policies. Anyway, shop around, and also call different agents from the same insurer (they don't have to live near you...for instance, there are several Allstate agents physically closer to my residence, but I've stayed with mine since 1991, even as I've moved around). Rates will vary. I've found rates can vary as much as 100%, or even more. Sometimes a personal reference can help, since they may judge you partially on the company you keep. This likely doesn't apply to companies like Progressive that quotes over the phone and doesn't link you up with a specific agent. However, I've found their rates to usually be the closest when I do my annual check on insurance rates. State Farm's usually the most expensive (not counting the ones that specialize in insuring "higher-risk" drivers), in my experience.
Jul 26, 2002 (4:23 am)
Thought you liked the trunk of your Sedan better than the hatch of the P5?
And I have that blue! Na, Na, Na, Na, Na!
#15606 of 24043 I do like the trunk better.
Jul 26, 2002 (4:28 am)
But the Protege5 is a way-cool-looking car. My wife has one, you know ... and I'd rather have TWO non-blue Proteges than ONE blue one!
Pete -- funny you mentioned that. While we're not planning to expand the family past Sean, I've been looking at the MPV anyway. I like its looks and the utility it affords, and since we had to sell our pop-up camper when I got rid of my truck and I miss the camper dearly, I'd like to get something with a V-6 in the future that can pull a small camper so we can buy another one.
My next car choice is gonna be a difficult one, because I also drooled a little over the Tributes. Seems Ford is finally addressing the stalling problem, and according to my mechanic the mid-year 2002 Tributes have new PCMs and don't stall anymore. If there are still Tributes in 2005 or 2006, it may be a hard choice between a Mazda6, a Tribute and an MPV.