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#10390 of 24043 Mass Airflow Sensor (Letter from Mazda)
Mar 23, 2002 (2:05 pm)
Have any of you out there gotten the letter from Mazda concerning the 1999-2000 Proteges with the 1.6L engine and the possibility of a malfuncitioning Mass Airflow Sensor? I got mine today.
I have had an engine ping that has baffled me for 30,000 miles now but it only occurs when I burn 89 or lower octane fuel. The Mazda mechanics in my town say that they cannot hear it. Anyway, is there a connection between the Mass Airflow Sensor and pinging? The letter from Mazda mentions symptoms such as uneven idle, lack of power, hesitation, and a Check Engine light, but there is no mention of pinging. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.
#10391 of 24043 1.6 Mass airflow censor
Mar 23, 2002 (3:29 pm)
Haven't heard about that letter, keep me posted if you hear anything further.
Mar 23, 2002 (5:37 pm)
ZZ79 loves her Pro but the concept of a 8000 rpm redline and 160 hp engine along with a $50 less car note is hard to pass up. I've driven an Si from Atlanta to Orlando and let me tell you that car goes like stink.
I've seen it now so I can give more details...Black 2000 Civic Si, 5 speed 38,000 miles, black int. stock everything, tires are new(we think it had wheels on it), no mods, bolt turned on front fenders and paint on the hood, no core, no frame, oil is clean, interior is kinda dirty though. We are getting it for $11,200. Lowest priced one in the Autotrader was like $13,000 for one with 78,000 miles on it.
The "green car" is history too. I'm buying a 1996 Silver EX 4 door for $4500. 107K Factory CD and tail, paint on hood, kinda dirty interior, I have some 15X7 Borbet Type C's that'll look great on it. Gonna drop it an inch and put a Wings West touring car kit on it. Drive it til either someone buys it or another great deal pops up at work. Like a nice $8000 94 SC400. Or a painted up 5 series stick for less than $15000
I like buying my cars kinda dirty though. I get em home rip out the seats shampoo the carpets scrub the stains and stuff. Makes me feel like they're mine. They seem to like it too. We've bought over 20 used cars and have never really had any serious mishaps. Luck or my limited knowledge of cars I don't know(knock on wood).
#10393 of 24043 FXASHUN/ZZ79: Civic
Mar 23, 2002 (6:00 pm)
"...Black 2000 Civic Si, 5 speed 38,000 miles, black int. stock everything, tires are new(we think it had wheels on it), no mods, bolt turned on front fenders and paint on the hood, no core, no frame, oil is clean, interior is kinda dirty though. We are getting it for $11,200"
That's sounds like a decent deal. I mean $17.000 for that car with 60.000kms, is about market value here in TO for an SI (I think). See, I am tempted to get an older Civic Coupe from 93-94 in May, but I'm having a hard time justifying $8.000-$9.000 and high insurance rates. I'm 21 so that might have something to do with it, but Civics would cost me about $50/mth more to insure than a used PRO let's say. I had a 93 HB and I had MAJOR problems with it, so I'm not the one that would say BUY! BUY! BUY!, although I have to admit it was a nice car (when I didn't have issues with it).
Oh well. I guess mine was junk then. My ex gf had a 89 Civic sedan that had 288.000kms on it (180.000 miles), then she bought a 91 over the summer with 220.000 kms on it and she thinks Hondas were God's gift to car buyers. That didn;t work out too well
#10394 of 24043 For a minute there...
Mar 23, 2002 (6:43 pm)
I thought ZoomZoom79 was buying the NEW Civic Si hatchback for $11,000!
fxashun: I've had expensive cars and entry level cars and always took care of them. Those lifestyles you mentioned didn't cover the types that take out their frustrations on their cars, it's a lack of selfesteem in many people: They don't have the big job they think they deserve; they aren't as important as they think they should be; or they bought a BMW and think they don't deserve it -- so they hide it by leaving it dirty.
I have a friend like that, he trashes everything he gets his hands on: cars, computers, anything mechanical. We've had many arguements about it. He's in his mid-fifties and hasn't changed in the past 30 years. I would never let him drive my Pro!
edmunds2460: I'm the same way, I avoid driving my Pro in the rain, if possible, and definately in snow.
Mar 23, 2002 (6:58 pm)
are those bulbs within the electrical specifications of the Pro?
#10396 of 24043 Bulbs? That wasn't me. I have no problem with our
Mar 23, 2002 (8:19 pm)
Dinu...The only car that I've ever had that gave me problems to no end were my Anniversary Turbo RX7. It blew a synchro, blew the speakers, and the engine had a weird imbalance at 3000 rpm that I never solved. I got rid of it for a 1991 MR2 Turbo. I've been pretty lucky ever since.
We have it pretty lucky working for CARMAX. We get to buy 2 cars at a discount. A real good discount... So we get to buy/sell 4 cars a year. That's how I got my Lexus for so cheap. We try to buy cars that we like so we can drive em til they sell.
What's funny about insurance costs is that when we were with Allstate ZZ's Pro alone was like $1025 for six months. She researched and got a policy at Progressive and all three of our cars were like $970. What a scam. In fact her Pro was actually MORE than her EXV6 Accord at Allstate.
Fowler...Every personality is different. Every one had their own quirks. I'd rather drive a Civic than my Lexus. I used to have a Vigor. I put 12,000 miles on it in 3 years while I drove my FX16's into the ground. I didn't neglect my FX's though. But then again I "earn" my money. I find that most people who trash cars like that "have" money. It's just there. Most people that baby thier cars "earn" thier money. that check every month represents a piece o their life that they gave up. Of course they are gonna take care of it.
Our Civics are kinda dirty now. But in a couple of weeks...I'll be eatin' off the floor.
Mar 23, 2002 (8:27 pm)
Not only did the Vigor only have 12,000 miles or so put on it while we owned it the thing had cobwebs in the brakes ... wonder if that had anything to do with the ABS light coming on???
dinu: You are welcome to buy our "green car". You know it doesn't have problems or we would have posted about it.
I will miss the Protege but there are some deals you can't pass up. I will miss the 0.0% interest though. But 6.25% on an 2 year old car isn't that bad either.
#10398 of 24043 Loss of money on the protege??
Mar 23, 2002 (9:02 pm)
How much money are you going to lose on your protege? I would think you would lose at least 2-3 grand on depreciation of the car if it is new (6 months or so). I thought of selling my car to get a WRX but financially, I can't. I bought it for 20K cdn + tax. It's a year and a half old now. I think I could get 15000 for it max and that's if I sold it privatly to some chump.
Mar 24, 2002 (6:59 am)
I am losing $5,000 but when I bought the car I took a check back for $3,000 because of the 0.0% interest. I was trading a car in and there was a difference so I just told them to cut me a check and I would sell the car on my own instead of trading it. Turns out I didn't even have to use the $3,000 to sell the car though because I sold it to a man less than a week later. But if I take the $3,000 into consideration I am actually only $2,000 in the hole. I financed $19,200 current payoff is $16,000 and they are giving me $11,000. The Si is only $11,000 (loan value is in the $15's) so I will finance $15000 and pay the rest.
Thank goodness for that 0.0% interest.