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You are in the Wagons
What is this discussion about?
Not sure which wagon to buy and looking for feedback on the choices out there? Use this as your starting point to narrow the field a bit!
#870 of 899 Re: - [ateixeira]
Nov 25, 2007 (12:43 pm)
Now THAT'S what I call a Corolla wagon. And I think you have to be an Australian to get one. Looks line a longer 9th generation body. Why they decided this won't sell enough in America is beyond me.
#871 of 899 Re: Chose a Vibe [suydam]
Nov 25, 2007 (12:49 pm)
The Versa is a good contender, actually. The better looking beige interior comes with the blue and the black model, surprisingly, and the stereo has an iPod jack. I hope to drive one in the next couple weeks, then be on the lookout for secondhand ones.
Between the Vibe/Matrix twins, I find the Vibe better looking. Surprisingly, it's larger than my '98 Corolla (parked next to one), but I can see some wallpaper going in to dress up that stark gray interior!
#872 of 899 Re: Wagon with three rows [pooly]
Nov 25, 2007 (12:56 pm)
Love the Pacifica. It has 5-star crash ratings, built like a tank, rides like a road cruiser, minimal reliability questions from the people I ask about it who own it, but the one very important dealbreaker is the absolutely dismal gas mileage. 17mpg just is not acceptable for a daily driver with gas over $3 now. If it weren't for that, I'd get one in a heartbeat. Domestic depreciation works in your favor in looking for one with less than 10K miles on it.
Nov 26, 2007 (9:19 am)
It probably would sell, but Toyota can make more profit selling a RAV4 for a higher price tag.
The upcoming Dodge Journey may be a more fuel efficient alternative to the Pacifica.
#874 of 899 Re: - [ateixeira]
Nov 26, 2007 (3:30 pm)
Hm, I dither at any notion of buying a Dodge. They tend to make their cars far too masculine for my taste. Be interesting to see what they come up with, though.
Nov 27, 2007 (10:02 am)
That's an astute observation, actually.
Note that they recently shortened their tag line, which used to be "Grab Life By the Horns", and is now just "Grab Life".
They did that in concert with the 2008 Grand Caravan launch.
You can't sell a minivan to moms with the "By the Horns" part.
I used to joke that Dodge was catering to the Neanderthal Male.
#876 of 899 Outback vs. Passat vs. ???
Dec 12, 2007 (9:06 am)
We are looking to replace a 93 Saab in the next month or so. Needs are safety, reliability, relative environmental consciousness. Have one child in carseat, potential for one more.
We are looking at the Outback 2.5 i Limited and Passat basic wagon. Love the AWD (we live in Boston suburbs and have a Forester) but love all the car we'd get in the Passat. Love the PZEV engine in the Outback and the fact that it takes regular gas.
Realistically I want to pay at/under 25K, husband wants to be closer to 20K.
I'm really not sure how to decide, and would appreciate feedback or suggestions of other cars we should consider!
#877 of 899 Re: Outback vs. Passat vs. ??? [dules]
Dec 12, 2007 (11:35 am)
I was going to say, PZEV Outback, but you already mentioned it.
To me it's the obvious choice.
Passat is also very nice, but it'll cost a bit more, especially if you want 4Motion.
The Outback is made at the SIA plant in Indiana, which is extremely green. They were the first plant in the US to be certified as zero waste (everything is recycled) and even grow a beautiful green lawn on the roof (!) of the facility.
Meanwhile, the PZEV status probably leaves the ambient air cleaner than you found it.
Go for it. I'd buy one if the PZEV models were available in MD.
#878 of 899 Re: Outback vs. Passat vs. ??? [dules]
Dec 12, 2007 (2:03 pm)
We are looking to replace a 93 Saab in the next month or so. Needs are safety, reliability, relative environmental consciousness.
Hmmm, based on this little bit of info, I'll assume you keep a car a long time. You may want to read up on the VW's reliability before casting your vote in that direction. Getting ten years or better out of the Passat will not be an inexpensive experience. Even an oil change will require special oil. You've already noted that the Saab using regular gas while the Dub really wants premium.
You might want to read up on the VW dealerships in the Boston market, as far as service is concerned. I seem to remember reading on other forums complaints about the quality of VW service there (could be I'm wrong, or that it has improved, but better to find out before you buy).
#879 of 899 Re: Outback vs. Passat vs. ??? [dules]
Dec 13, 2007 (10:51 am)
I mis-spoke myself - I meant to say the Subie uses regular gas, not the Saab.