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Replying to: milammilam (Apr 05, 2001 9:03 pm) I have a family of 6 including myself. I am looking for a mid-size SUV, CUV or Wagon that has the following features: AWD, seats 6, has good MPG (25+ avg - diesel would be wonderful but I've given up on that) & relatively inexpensive (late model 15+, newer 20) Does ANYBODY have any good ideas? Seriously, I've been looking online and asking for 2 months now with NO real stand-outs. Any real help is greatly appreciated. Sincerely (stumped) Andy
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It should seat 6 and some (Toyota and Chrysler/Dodge) have AWD otion. Krzys PS Nobody replies because car that you specify does not exist.
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Replying to: 68andy (Aug 30, 2007 10:42 pm) Two classes of vehicle come close. The new crop of "vanlets", the Mazda5, Kia Rondo, and the upcoming Dodge Journey and just-announced Honda Stream all seat 6 and might meet your fuel economy wishes. Mazda offers AWD in Japan but not here. Honda offers AWD but it's not here yet and who knows if they'll bring that model. You can get any of those for $20k new. The Kia, even less. The Mazda5 could be well equipped for that price. Mid-size SUVs and CUVs tend to cost a lot more than $20k new. Even a bargain-basement leftover 2007 Ford Freestyle would run $21-22k, and expecting 25 mpg average may be a little optimistic. Add AWD and the price goes up and the mileage goes down. Still, it's probably closest. Others, like the Highlander, Tribeca, Pilot, Pathfinder, Veracruz, CX9, and Acadia/Outlook/Enclave all cost a bunch more than your budget and also would not meet your fuel economy goals. With some you'd be lucky to average 20mpg. Drive a Rondo, a Mazda5, and a Freestyle, is what I would suggest. I think you're just asking for too much. 3 row SUVs and crossovers are both expensive and inefficient overall. |
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Replying to: krzyss (Aug 31, 2007 6:55 am) Toyota does still offer an AWD Sienna, but I'd expect to pay about $27-28k for a new one. Used would be a good option, they made them since 2004. I'm not sure if you'll average 25mpg, but you might come close, maybe low 20s. I have a FWD Sienna and usually average 23-27mpg, with a peak of 30.6mpg on an all highway jaunt. With 6 kids you surely will appreciate all the space, too. |
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How about using snow tires and going for FWD. A van/wagon with snows will do as well or better in the snow than an AWD without snows (remember AWD does not help you stop). I ran my light and low Integra with snows in SD for 12 years and was not once stopped by the snow. It drove like a snowmobile - a heavier taller vehicle should do even better. Our Sienna is excellent in the snow and ice with FWD and snows (also has traction and stability). Constantly drivng by all the SUV's in the ditch. |
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Replying to: 68andy (Aug 30, 2007 10:42 pm) If you really need AWD... -used Ford Freestyle -used Toyota Sienna (AWD LE model might be close to $20k) -used 01-03 Chrysler AWD van (not super reliable) -used Chrysler Pacfica -used Subaru Tribeca (a bit over $20k) If you'd prefer to hit close to the 25mpg figure and can live without AWD (I 2nd the snow tire idea)... -new Mazda5 -new Kia Rondo -used mini van with one of the smaller engines |
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Replying to: 68andy (Aug 30, 2007 10:42 pm) |
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To all the great suggestions - thank you very much. I live in the desert Sb so snow & ice aren't really problems. I was looking for something that would do light off-road duty to take the family camping & such. I REALLY wish that someone (GM, Ford, Saturn, some freakin' body) would come out with a ULSD engine in an AWD here in the States. For crying out loud the Europeans have embraced and in large part perfected small vehicle diesels with really low emissions. I was just hoping that somebody might have found or seen something that I hadn't. Sincerely (still stumped) Andy
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In the 80's there was an AWD Camry and also a diesel Camry, and there was a wagon Camry for quite some time. That combo would have filled the bill - but they were not all available together. Some progress since then huh. |
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Replying to: 68andy (Aug 31, 2007 9:44 pm) Disconnect the trailer and you're not compromising mileage when you don't need 4WD. |
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