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Replying to: lucien2 (Feb 11, 2007 12:20 pm) -Brian
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Replying to: subearu (Feb 11, 2007 3:51 pm) so again...  The GF with the wheels/tires off of a BG5. now with 100% more image!!1!1one!  weird, because the original was lifted straight off of CarSpace's "embed image" link.
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Replying to: lucien2 (Feb 11, 2007 6:47 pm) -juice
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 12, 2007 8:24 am) |
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Here are a few pics from my ski trip last weekend -- these are shots from the Alleghany mountains in Virginia, as I crossed into West Virginia on route 250:     This is one of the most beautiful parts of the country I have traveled through, and it's a fun trip -- I crossed about 4 major mountain ridges, with elevations close to 4000 ft. The roads were mostly clear for this trip (except for some crazy drifts), but in the past I have driven the route in with snow coming down, and it can be quite an adventure. In fact, one trip a couple years ago took every bit of AWD capability my Outback could muster! The RDX ran like a champ -- I really appreciated the sharp handling on the twisty mountain roads, and got to enjoy SH-AWD coming out of turns. With a little throttle, it really brings the rear end around. Over the 510 mile round trip, I got 21.5mpg; 19.6mpg heading out (uphill) and 23.4 coming home (downhill). About 70% of the miles were interstate, the rest were country/mountain roads. Craig
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Replying to: c_hunter (Feb 17, 2007 9:25 am) Now that you've had the RDX for a while, how would you compare it to your old Outback? Where is the RXD better than the Outback, and vice-versa? Any regrets or wished-for items on the RDX? Also, what sort of speeds were you doing to achieve those mpg results? Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Feb 17, 2007 10:05 am) I was doing 72-75mph on the highway, and 45-55mph on the back roads to get that gas mileage. Actually, I had to crawl through some of the turns in the mountains, or when I encountered a snow drift, but it was 45-55mph for the most part. The overwhelming thing I like about the RDX is the roominess inside, the higher seating position, and the general comfort when cruising on the highway. It feels like sitting in a lazy boy with the wider, softer seats and cushier feel, despite the firmer suspension. This is the biggest thing I notice compared to the Outback. Next on the list would be the handling and the SH-AWD, which makes it very fun to drive (the suspension could potentially be a negative aspect for some people, since it is very firm). Finally, the RDX interior layout is better ergonomically, and the auto climate control works much better than what I had in the Outback. It ends up being a lot more pleasant inside. The Outback was superior for utility; in fact where the RDX is better for passenger comfort it's worse for cargo space and general utility. The Outback was 8-10" longer behind the front seats, which was better for skis and other long items. The Outback also has a better folding rear seat arrangement -- one step compared to two steps in the RDX -- and the RDX wastes the rear footwells by stowing the seat bottom there. That was usable space on the Outback. I like the Outback's rollup cargo cover far better than the hard shelf in the RDX. Powertrains are on par, and can't really say one is better or worse than the other. The RDX engine is a bit smoother, but the XT engine was more lively. The RDX has less turbo lag, but the OB XT felt stronger down low before the turbo kicked in. I do think the sport mode on the OB XT 5EAT was better than the sport mode in the RDX. On paper, the 05 OB XT would be better in snow but in practice the RDX seems to do fine. I am sure in very deep snow, my 05 OB XT was better just because it can theoretically put 100% of the power down with slippage via limited slip diffs (ironically, I believe the new 07 OB XT with VDC can theoretically only put 50% power down with slippage because it uses brakes to stop spinning wheels, like the RDX). The SH-AWD impact on dry handling in he RDX is impressive, and is something Subaru could stand to copy -- it really works wonders. Those are the main points that cross my mind at the moment. Overall, at the $30K street price for the RDX and the $29K street price of the OB XT Ltd, I feel like the vehicles both offer decent value. We know Subaru has struggled to get the value/premium/luxury/pricing mix worked out, and I find it interesting to see OB XT Ltd pricing nearly overlap with a similar Acura product. Acura is a near-luxury premium Honda product. That seems to be where Subaru was trying to head a few years ago. I did have a hard time deciding to sell the OB XT and get an RDX, and it took me 3-4 months to figure that out. I was happy with the OB XT and it was like an old faithful dog. That said, I can't remember a new car that I have been so pleased with as the RDX. It has met or exceeded my expectations in every way, and I don't miss the OB XT much at all. Craig |
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Not sure what makes you think only 50% of the power gets down whith VDC (or the SH-AWD system for that matter) Also the dry-handling of the SH-AWD, how is that accomplished? Just curious. -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Feb 17, 2007 10:31 pm) Craig, am I right? Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Feb 18, 2007 8:19 am) -mike
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