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#258 of 699 My opinion of the M-class.
Aug 31, 2004 (12:37 am)
This is my first post here. I have been reading all of the posts and complaints here and I am surprised to a certain point. I am 19 years old. I own a '65 Mustang but my parents are the ones that own Mercedes-they have owned various models for the past 25 years. Currently, my dad drives an '84 300SD- EVERYDAY, EVERYWHERE. My mom has a brand new 2005 ML350 special edition, and finally, my brother has an '83 300SD.
Before the current '05 ML, we had a '99 ML320- bought it new. My mom drove the car to work everyday and did not have the extended warranty. Upon turning it in this past July it had 65,000 miles on it.
Here are some problems we had:
-Interior would always fog up- usually at night or in the morning- we just lived with that issue.
-Radio always had fuzzy reception- just because they have micro antennas-that was nothing major
-Gas gauge never showed full- new sending unit fixed that.
-Windhsield washer reservoir leaked- dealer installed new one- we didnt even report the problem- they just did it while the car was in for maintenance.
-Battery shorted out- car would not start-had to be towed- THIS IS NOT A ML PROBLEM- it was a defective MB battery.
-Sunroof wind deflector popped out of place while closing.
-Cupholders popped out a couple of times- those are easy to fix.
-cd player skipped- dealer installed new player.
-heater/ac blower motor made rattling noise- dealer fixed no problem
-rear hatch door hydraulic lift cylinders- the driver side leaked so they went ahead and replaced both.
All in all, these are just minor things that happen with all new cars. The car never went in for a or b services- and the oil was always changed with regular oil- every 3000 miles. (no engine problems-ever)
Over a period of 65000 miles, nothing major ever happened with the car. The paint held up perfectly, no major interior problems, no shock/suspension/brake problems, no engine/ tranny problems, and no dealer problems.
Dealers have always been more than willing to help, and we have always been provided with a mercedes loaner car. When the warranty ended, we simply asked the dealer to go over the car to make sure it will be okay out of warranty- without any hesitation they re-charged the AC, balanced the tires, checked front end alignment, found a bad electric engine fan wiring harness- fixed that, found a bad ac drier- fixed that.
The only reason we traded in the '99 was because of the special edition package offered on the '05. My parents also wanted a new mercedes with a warranty because they knew what maintenance costs were out of warranty.
Before having the '99, my parents had a '92 300TE wagon- it was a lot more expensive than the ML, and it had its share of problems. At 70,000 miles the AC quit and the engine needed a few things.
Since I am the one that takes care of the cars, I pay a lot of attention to how they are built. I thought the '99 was nice, but in comparison to the '05, it was okay.
Here are some improvements I have found:
More power-3.7 L
Better materials- better interiors, gauges, trim packages, etc.
The interior does not have any more cheap hard plastic surfaces- everything is soft (wrapped in vinyl?)
The new ML's have weatherstripping where the old ones never had it- each door has more at the top and bottom.
The hood does not use a cheap prop-rod, instead it uses hydraulic shocks.
Wood is better quality inside
HVAC controls are much fancier.
Tire and rim sizes are bigger.
I can go on and on...the differences between 5 years are amazing- it shows that mercedes has tried to improve something that was okay in the first place.
Also-since we have always had MB rental cars (mostly c-class) I would have to say that those are very nice as well.
The only complaint so far is the dealer they bought the '05 from- one of the chrome rims is peeling and it has taken 6 weeks for a new one-
Any other questions- feel free to E-mail me.
Sorry for the long message- I just wanted to share our experiences with our ML's....
#259 of 699 Re: No Scheduled Maintainence With 2005 MB Models? [adplusone]
Aug 31, 2004 (12:42 am)
You heard right- there is no scheduled maintenance included with the '05's.
3 dealers said it was to keep the sticker price of the '05's lower-I guess the maintenance cost more than expected...
#260 of 699 Re: 2003 ML 350 SERIOUS DEFECT [nv829]
Sep 01, 2004 (10:29 am)
In reply to the person whose brakes failed and car accelerated involuntarily, the exact same thing happened to us with our 2003 ML 350. Our car crashed into another car, which jumped the parking curb and smashed into a strip mall (luckily hitting the brick wall between two windows inside of which people were eating dinner). Dealer says it was not a problem with the car. NTHSA site has other reports of this happening and I'm interested to see if any others out there (in addition to NV 829) have had this problem.
#261 of 699 MBUSA won't fix anything if it ain't break...
Sep 02, 2004 (10:51 am)
Just have my so-far-looks-OK ML in for a check. Mentioned all the major problems here (Harmonic Balancer, Fuel Pump/filter, etc) and they say MBUSA won't replace unless it's really broken or on the recall list, even if under warranty. Worse, "... you can't report any information you found on the internet/forum and ask us to replace because anything can fail sooner or later..."
Therefore, ML owners, keep your finger crossed whenever you are on the road. Sooner or later something will fall apart and if your warranty ran out...
Is there a standard of making a faulty part on the recall list? What about the people suffered before the recall letter is issued? MB issued the recall of ML steering hose clamp in mid 2003 or before, I was stranded because of this in Oct. 2003 and received the recall letter in Nov. 2003 !!! On the up side, I got one good-hearted dealer got me a rental car to at least drove my never-in-a-MB-and-cannot-believe-such-poor-quality parents home. I don't know how ML got rated as the safest car as in their commercial? Losing power steering on road is not safe at all. I don't want to get stranded again because of the pulley or the fuel filter and on, which is well-known already.
Can we report this to BBB or somewhere else? Even though I don't think they'll do a thing...
#262 of 699 Re: 2000 ML320 Fuel filter AND fuel line replacement? [gatortom]
Sep 03, 2004 (8:44 am)
I called MB corporate armed with the TSI # and delt with the CS rep that answered. I asked him to escalate the issue and get back to me. I have until Sep 28 on my warranty and 38K miles on the truck. MB corporate OK'ed a warranty fix (new fuel filter and lines)after I made several follow-up calls. I had to convince the local MB dealer to do the work (they had refused twice in the past prior to my call to MB corp). It took a lot of small talk and my threat to buy a new BMW (I drove my 735i to the MB dealer)to make the point. It was all done free of charge and the truck runs better then ever. I have had the following replaced under warranty and never spent a dime on this truck other then to purchase a couple emergency keys.
Fixed under warranty to date:
Aux fan wiring harness & 40amp fuse upgrade
power steering clamp and hose
pass rear door weather strip
Windshield washer/wipper stalk broke off
accelerator pedal cable
Fuel filter/line upgrade
ETS light fix
Fuse box clips replaced
#263 of 699 Harmonic Balancer on V8 pai7
Sep 04, 2004 (4:43 am)
Does the Ml 430 have a Harmonic Balancer?
#264 of 699 Re: 2000 ML320 Fuel filter AND fuel line replacement? [2000ml320]
Sep 12, 2004 (9:24 am)
I have the same year suv. The dealer want sto charge me for a gas filter upgrade at the 60K service. He said that MB was going to alrger Gas Filter due to the extreme cold temps of the Northeast. Due to the bigger filter I would require new hoses...at my expense. So if MB decides to upgrade components I should pay? What dealership did you use for your warranty work?
#265 of 699 Re: Towing Capacity of an '03 ML350 [buckaroo067]
Sep 16, 2004 (12:05 pm)
I have a 2000 ML320 and I tow a camper which is about 3500lbs and I have taken it up to the Adirondacks. The tranny works very hard but I would guess the hills from PA are not close to the steep hills around Lake Placid. You should have no problem. I had my hitch put on at a local U Haul store at about 1/2 the cost that MB dealer asked for. Good Luck.
#266 of 699 My 2000 ML320 Problem List
Oct 07, 2004 (7:10 am)
I currently own a 2000 ML 320 with 60K miles on it.
1. Right rear passenger locking mechanism (5K miles)
2. Driver's side window lifting arm assemly (40K miles)
3. Driver's side window switch (45K miles)
4. Windshield wiper fluid reservoir (57K miles)
5. Hydraulic pump which supplies ETS, ABS, BSP (57K miles)
6. Driver's side door panel was repaird four times and it still comes off at the front lower corner.
7. Rear liftgate locking mechanism
8. Yesterday, I've noticed that the car had a louder exhaust sound and idled a bit rougher. My friend found a hairline crack on the front weld of the catalytic converter (was told by the service manager that it's covered under 8year/ 80K miles warranty for the catalytic converter) Will see this weekend.
I've replaced brake pads about every 25K miles, and the brakes are excellent.
I've replaced the stock tires at 50K miles with Michelin SUV tires that I've bought from tirerack.com.
If you need anymore details on the write up please reply.
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#267 of 699 Re: Knocking, Backfiring, & Extreme Low Acceleration Power [320carlsson]
Oct 13, 2004 (12:17 am)
Have similar problems in similar car. How did you solve it? Thanks for quick response.