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#478 of 2771 '02 PATHFINDER LE LOW BRAKE PEDAL
Nov 15, 2002 (7:15 pm)
I bought my '02 PF LE in CT end of July and drove it home to Pensacola without incident- comfortable drive with full load. On several occasions when coming to full stop, usually from a slow speed such as in my garage, the edge of my foot overlapped the gas pedal slightly causing the engine to accelerate with some forward lurch of the vehicle. Examination reveals that with engine running and as little pressure as two fingers depressing the brake pedal, the pedal travels an inch below the gas pedal. Moderate foot pressure, with the power assist, will bottom the pedal on the floor stop. The dealer here adjusted the rear brakes at 2300 miles, which changed nothing. The svc. mgr. demonstrated that another new PF does the same, stating that the condition is normal. I sent photos illustrating the condition to Nissan, who finally stated that, "the vehicle's brake and gas pedal positions are within manufacture specifications."
Review of the NHTSA website records for 2000-2002 PF's reveals several incidents of unintended acceration when the brakes were applied, some resulting in accidents. Only a couple identified the cause as unintentional pressure on the gas pedal. No NTSB/NHTSA investigation is indicated. Assuming that only a small portion of the public even knows of the NHTSA, or would report to same; there must be numerous incidents unreported.
The space between the pedals is 2 1/2", which is appropriate, but it still unacceptably dangerous to have the brake travel below gas pedal level. My experience occurred with tennis and boat shoes. Pity the guy or gal with winter muclucs!
I intend to pursue this with the NHTSA, and would appreciate hearing from other owners. Note, that with the engine off, no power brakeing, pedal travel is lessened.
#479 of 2771 95' tacho speed wacked
Nov 16, 2002 (1:24 am)
Have a 95 PF, and at times the tachometer and speedometer do not respond. After some time of driving they will engage.
Has anyone had this problem.
Also my tach reads 1200 rpm on idle, does anyone know the correct idle?
I've been reading several messages about PF's shaking at 60, have 90000 miles and no problem, yet anyway. But do hear a pinging noise in front while idle.
#480 of 2771 03 Pathfinder LE over acceleration
Nov 19, 2002 (11:19 am)
Attention message #468
With only 150 miles on it, while pulling into a parking space - the vehicle suddenly lurched forward with motor roaring. Luckily I was not near a crowded crosswalk. The service dept. said the computor checked out fine. I asked him to adjust the gas pedal because it accelerates very quickly and without even touching the gas pedal the car starts moving forward as soon as you put it in gear....He said he couldn't adjust it because it is all on computor including the gas pedal. A salesman told me they started putting the gas pedals on computor on the late '02 and '03's PF - it is not on the Xterra.
When I asked the dealer to take the car back - he said I would have to take a $4,000 loss
in addition to the sales tax .
Any suggestions???? I am now afraid to drive the car.
Nov 19, 2002 (1:23 pm)
Check the brake pedal overtravel thread.You may have hit the gas at the same time.
Nov 19, 2002 (5:28 pm)
This happened to me too last week.I pressed the gas pedal while pressing the brake pedal. I was about to change gears and was busy putting my cellular away.
The truck was on park so nothing happened else than the motor reved up. I had the radio relatively loud so I didn't hear anything, I realized something was wrong because people were staring at me.... (The whole thing lasted a couple of seconds only).
The brake pedal IS actually traveling past the gas pedal on my 03. The pedals are relatively close so it is possible to hit both at the same time, mainly with winter boots.
It seems weird.... I don't recall that this ever happened to me before.
Gee if I would have switched from Park to Rear without realizing I was revving up I could have hit something or someone....
#483 of 2771 Brake Pedal And Acceleration
Nov 19, 2002 (10:43 pm)
I have a '03 LE with approx 200 miles on it. It also accelerates rather unexpectedly fast. All it takes is a very slight pressure on the gas pedal, and this thing takes off as a bet out of hell. This is especially evident when the engine is cold but not necessary then. I also have a Toyota 4 Runner which accelerates and switches gears much smother.
I can see how this type of acceleration can cause a dangerous condition. I suspect there might be a recall later or TSB later.
Nov 20, 2002 (5:16 am)
I don't seem to have the acceleration problem. Ok it is not as smooth as the 4Runner but it is not taking off that wildly...
#485 of 2771 Acceleration
Nov 20, 2002 (8:29 am)
I've only had my '03 for about 3 weeks. I'm still finding the gas pedal a bit "touchy" compared to the Grand Cherokee I had before but I'm getting used to it now .I do notice that when someone drives my PF for the first time they tend to jump it ahead on the first few starts. Several have commented on how sensitive the gas is.
#486 of 2771 Acceleration
Nov 20, 2002 (10:48 am)
I agree, with sailor16 that for the most people "touchy" gas pedal is something to get used to.
However, it also could be somewhat dangerous (especially, when you slam on the brakes and hit the gas pedal by an accident. I guess if you have winter/work boots it could not be that card to accomplish).
Also, does anyone know if PFs have one of those "learning" computers that tune themselves to the driver's habits? Jeep GC have those, I think. Maybe that's the problem? It is too new and "uneducated"?
Thanks for the responses.
Nov 20, 2002 (11:11 am)
To be honest I thought that was a feature more than a bug. While my 4Runner was smoother it was also less powerful.
When I took delivery on my Pathfinder I noticed that it was more powerful and prompt but I thought this was because of the added HP and Torque.
So I quickly adjusted my driving style a bit and I am more gentle on the accelerator.
That's why I reported that I didn't seem to have the acceleration problem.
So what do you guys think, problem or feature ???