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#163 of 2771 The Shimmy Story
Jul 05, 2001 (3:28 pm)
I recently purchased a 01 LE Pathfinder, and I am expericing the "Dreaded Shimmy". I have found some topics on this issue, but I need some assistance. Please reply if you have had this problem and had found a way to resolve it. I have only 400 miles on my Pathy and I brought it in to the Dealership to fix it. They balanced the tires and the shimmy is still there. I asked for a copy of the Nissan Service Bulletin NTB00-061 and asked them to address the issues presented in the document. I then took the service rep with me for a ride and showed him the Shimmy. I had a glass of water in the vehicle and showed the ripples of water that the shimmy caused and that you could clearly feel the Vibration, in the seat, armrest, and steering wheel, especially at speeds between 35-45 mph, but more so, at 45-55 mph. They told me that in their opinion that vehicle drives fine and there is no problem and so go away. I called Nissan's 800 number, but they did not help. I have owned a Nissan Pickup SE since 1994 and I have never
had a Shimmy issue. I have Dunlop tires and I was wondering if I should just replace the tries with an All-Season tire such as Michelin?
Now the story continues...
Yes. I have a copy of the NTB00-061 Service Bulletin. Here's what happened.
First, I called the salesman and told him of the vibration/shimmy. He said
it was because I have aggressive tries and they would "wear in"...I did not
believe this, tires only get worse when not properly balanced. I asked to
make an appointment for a tire balancing. I brought it to Nissan to correct
the shimmy, and they stated they were "unable to verify customer's concern".
I told them to balance the tires anyway (again) and that I wanted a copy of
the bulletin. Next, I asked the Service rep to go for a ride with me. He did
verify the "slight" Shimmy, and I asked him to schedule an appointment to go
through the 5 points on the Bulletin and/or replace my tires. When we got
bad at the dealership, the Service Manager (different guy) "talked me out
it"...Basically, the Service Manager said he personally test drove my
Pathfinder and said it drives fine and that there is nothing more they can
do. I really felt he was full of shit and giving me Slick Willy talk. This
was on Monday. Today, Thursday, I brought my Pathfinder into an independent
Tire shop which had the Hunter GSP 9700. They said that the tires were out
of balance, but the vehicle did not exhibit and excessive "Radial Force
Vibration", so they felt the Dunlop on my Pathy are fine. The problem is
that I still have the Shimmy. I do not think it really made much of a
difference. I can still feel it in my seat, armrest, etc. Matt, looking at
the list on the NTB00-061, the only thing that appears to have not been
checked yet is the "insufficient steering rack force adjustment"? What are
your thoughts, my new friend? How did you resolve this frustrating shimmy
issue? I feel like I should now bring it to a second Nissan Dealership and
request they check the steering rack...
#164 of 2771 Refer to message # 144 - Yet another vibration victim by x2guy
Jul 05, 2001 (3:43 pm)
Refer to message # 144 - Yet another vibration victim by x2guy. This sounds like the same problem my Pathy is experiencing.
X2guy - Have you had your Vibration/Shimmy issue fixed?
On a scale from 1 to 10 had bad would you say the Vibration is? Compared to other vehciles you have driven, how was the shimmy in comparison? As for my vehicle, the steering wheel does not shake to the visible eye. The Service Manager told me the steering wheel would be "really" shaking if there was a problem. I feel only a slight vibration in the wheel, but the seat vibrates, as well as the gas peal, armrest, etc ...which vibrate enough to numb and irritate the hell out of you. What if I changed my tires from "All-Terrain" which I think all Pathfinders come standard...perhaps get the "All-Season" Tires...More of a highway type ride, smoother possibly?
#165 of 2771 Refer to message # 157 - Vibration by erhein
Jul 05, 2001 (3:47 pm)
Hey Erhein - You said your Pathfinder is still Vibrating?
Jul 05, 2001 (5:07 pm)
This is my first time posting to this board.
I have a 97 Pathfinder. On a recent long trip when I reached about 70 mph on I95 the vehicle didn't vibrate, but started rocking back and forth with increasing intensity until the cruise was cancelled and I slowed a little. Then the ride returned to normal until a certain stretch of road set off the rocking again.
I called the dealership and they think it might be the sway bar and/or bearings that are bad.
I travel 3 hrs. to the nearest dealership tomorrow to have it checked.
Anyone else have this problem?
#167 of 2771 shimmy - djc
Jul 06, 2001 (6:50 am)
My shimmy was really bad. The steering wheel and any hand on it would shake back and forth...sometimes more than others. I'd call it an 8. The shimmy was worse than any I'd ever experienced on any of my other vehicles. Once, when I rotated the tires, the shimmy appeared to have gone away. Instead it was actually just the problem tires being moved from the front to the back. I could slightly feel it in the seat and armrest, but it wasn't enough to numb my butt or elbow.
Regardless of the brand of tire on your truck, you have that brand's highway tire. I'm not a Dunlop fan, so I don't really know if they have a better tire. I know that people looking for a smoother ride (in any SUV) have gone to the Bridgestone Dueler H/L. Another popular tire has been the Michelin LTX M/S. That said, I would bet money (and I'm not a bettin' man) on it NOT being your tire tread.
Hope this helps.
#169 of 2771 Rocking at 70 by tomshadle
Jul 06, 2001 (10:23 am)
e-mail me for details on how to fix your problem
#170 of 2771 shimmy NTB in .pdf file
Jul 06, 2001 (1:08 pm)
Due to the number of requests I have received for copies of the Service bulletin related to the shimmy, I scanned the NTB00-061 into a PDF file, last night.
E-mail me at smithmdsmithyahoo.com if you want a copy.
#171 of 2771 Vibration - Floorboard Area
Jul 06, 2001 (6:23 pm)
I have a 2000 LE and had recent problems with a small leak in the trans case. Upon replacing the case of the trans, there is now a vibration upon acceleration, changing gears, and constant after 70. Veh purchased in Dec/99. They cannot repair the problem, and as I have seen in the other messages, the service manager received the same answer from the Nissan Area Techs (Atlanta)... that there is an inherent vibration. What is interesting is that the problem was not present prior to the tranny work and they have just about exhausted all means. The manager of the dealership is willing to take the veh back and work out details for another Path LE. (Will have to closely review.) I have my letter ready to go to Nissan Corp because all the trans problems (4 repairs before replacing trans case) under the Georgia Lemon Law. There appear to be advantages/disadvantages for either route. Either way, they deduct (currently has 15K) for normal use (for lemon law or dealer). Went to the dealer today and he showed me a manufacturer's "Nissan CD - Problems" that the 97-99 Path have an inherent vibration - floorboard problem.. but not the 2000's. BTW, I also have a small shimmy in the steering wheel around 60-65. Comments and Recommendation(s)?
#172 of 2771 Vibration
Jul 07, 2001 (7:20 pm)
Sounds like a drive-line problem. I hope they don't low-ball your PF just so they can sell you a new one. Have an independent technician check the drive-line run-out. Nissan shows .024 in max. run-out. (for the floor board vibration) for what it's worth