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Re: What? No problems? [wshfl]
by desertguy
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Jun 21, 2007 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: wshfl (Jun 21, 2007 6:18 am)
All of us original buyers of '02s and '03s have either had their leases run out or moved on after 3 or 4 years. Since Jag hardly sell any new XTypes, there is no new blood to keep the board up. OTOH, most of Edmunds boards have slowed down considerably no matter what the brand. I don't know why.
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Quality Reigns
by wshfl
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Jun 22, 2007 (5:43 am)
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It must be a general improvement in overall quality. Maybe the manufacturers are "learning their lesson".
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Re: What? No problems? [desertguy]
by oldcem
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Jun 22, 2007 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: desertguy (Jun 21, 2007 5:04 pm)
My first X was an 03 2.5 autommatic. Until the car had 20K miles on it, it wore me out with trips to the dealer for warranty work. After 20K, the bugs went away, and, the car was an absolute joy for the next 20K. Went to the dealer last May to check on an extended warranty package. Spotted a nicely equipped new 06 X 3.0 sitting on the lot, and, ended up trading for it. The 06 now has 19K on it, and, the only warranty work it's needed is a hood insulation pad replacement (it started sagging in the middle). Took the dealer 15 minutes to fix it. I do most of my own service to the car, and, I'm amazed at all the changes that Jag has made to the car. Near as I can tell, the only fault that hasn't been addressed is the flimsy center consul problem. The fat 17inch wheels, better brakes, and larger engine make this cat a lot more fun to drive.
Regards:
OldCEM
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2002 X-type Brakes
by jerseyjag
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Jun 25, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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Does anyone have a rough estimate of approximately how long or number of miles before a brake replacement is needed? I know this always depends upon driving conditions, etc. But on average does anyone have a feel as to when it is normally necessary. Do the brake pads come equipped with feelers and if so is the sound they make the high pitched scratching sound (that I've heard on other cars) or more like a metalic moan (which is what I am hearing on mine)? If pads have to be replaced do you always have to replace the rotors? How can you tell? I know the easiest way would be to jack up the car and remove a wheel to have a look at the pads but I was hoping that I could utilze the experience of others here to help me determine if I need to start messing around. Thanks.
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Re: What? No problems? [oldcem]
by observer22
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Jun 28, 2007 (2:43 am)
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Replying to: oldcem (Jun 22, 2007 8:01 pm)
I read someplace that Jaguar had over one thousand new parts on the 2004 X. Typical Ford mistake, just as they did 20 years ago with the Tempo, 10 years ago with the Contour, 7 years ago with the Focus.....they seem to purposely introduce flawed new cars and let the customers who buy the first 2-3 years of a new model suffer numerous problems which Ford then fixes.
And GM is even worse than Ford.
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Re: What? No problems? [observer22]
by oldcem
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Jul 01, 2007 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: observer22 (Jun 28, 2007 2:43 am)
All but 2 of the warranty issues I had with my 03 were minor annoyances. The two biggies - my torque convertor flex plate statrted rattling, and, my drivers seat wore out prematurely. Both were fixed promptly by my dealer with one trip. I've been very satisfied with both X's I've owned, and, I'm hard to please. I'm an ex - GM engineer.
Regards:
Oldengineer
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Re: 2002 X-type Brakes [jerseyjag]
by kkear3
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Aug 22, 2007 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: jerseyjag (Jun 25, 2007 4:50 pm)
The rear brakes will wear out first as mine did at around 40K miles. As with most makes and models of cars, the rotors must also be replaced as they too are a wear item and will be too thin to be effective will the new pads and would just warp and crack almost immediately. Oh yeah, and bring money, lots of it; my dealer (Bennett in Allentown, PA) charged $500 for mine and they are known for being reasonably priced.
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2003 X-Type Used Potential Money Pit?
by casandranow
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Aug 23, 2007 (8:30 pm)
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My mother is currently looking at purchasing a 2003 X-Type, with around 45k miles on it, for a good 13k sticker price. She has always wanted a Jag, just could never afford one. What I'm wondering, and what she hasn't given a lot of thought to, is after she shells out the purchase price, is she going to be breaking her retirement bank in upkeep and insurance costs?
I want her to have something she's always dreamed of having. But I can't help but worry that it's going to turn into a money pit with repairs, be unreliable, and skyrocket her insurance rates. Any suggestions?
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Re: 2003 X-Type Used Potential Money Pit? [casandranow]
by desertguy
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Aug 24, 2007 (3:49 am)
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Replying to: casandranow (Aug 23, 2007 8:30 pm)
I would only buy a used Jaguar from an authorized dealer and it would have to have Jaguar's Select Edition warranty. Not some third party warranty either. She will have to pay more but it will be worth it for the piece of mind and the monetary protection. The Select Edition warranty was the top rated manufacturers extended warranty in several surveys. They are very expensive to fix.
A 2003 is better than the first year 2002 but even newer would be better. My 2002 was virtually trouble free but I was in the minority. My 2005 was also pretty much trouble free. It could be an expensive dream for your mother.
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Re: 2002 X-type Brakes [kkear3]
by jerseyjag
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Aug 24, 2007 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: kkear3 (Aug 22, 2007 3:35 pm)
Actually I wound up biting the bullet and changed the brakes myself. I did find that the rear pads were more worn then the front. In addition, the rear piston needs to be turned and pressed in at the same time when making the change. This is different then most cars. A special tool is recommended for this task but I found that a wide bladed screw driver did the job. I had other replies elsewhere about the rotor replacement. Concensus was that for the first change out the rotor did not normally need to be replaced. So the whole job cost me $95 for the front and rear pads. I have had no problems with the brakes since the replacement was done. Hardest part of the whole job was getting the wheels off the car. But I learned a little trick here too. It was recommended by another user and worked very well. You loosen the lugs and then drive back and forth a little bit. This does the job of breaking the bond between the hub and the wheel and does not damage the wheel at all.
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