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#2320 of 2594 At the dealer again
Jan 17, 2006 (2:44 pm)
I have just gotten off the phone with the service advisor at the dealership. I brought my X-Type in for a few smaller issues, but the most important one (again) was to try and fix the whining and groaning differential noise (fourth time). I rode in my car with the technician driving on the highway to let him hear the noise and make sure he knows what I am complaining about. Apparently, he was familiar with the issue and said that I was not the only owner complaining about the whine. However, supposedly Jaguar USA no longer authorizes dealers to replace differentials because in most cases the new differential makes even louder noise. Jaguar views it only as nuisance, so I have to pretty much live with it and accept it. If your Jag does not make the whining noise, you are lucky and should enjoy your quiet, luxurious machine, while I will be doomed to listen to the howls of my unfortunate X-Type. Seems to me that the days of a Jaguar taking space in my garage are counted. Too bad, because it is a nice looking car, but there is only so much whining one can bear. Besides, it is a 2004 Jaguar and not a 1984 Ford pickup. Whining drivetrain and the name of a luxury automobile should never be used in one sentence. Well, except Jaguar.
#2321 of 2594 Re: At the dealer again [axiomlover]
Jan 17, 2006 (3:52 pm)
Really sorry to hear of your whining differential problems axiomlover. I guess I have been very fortunate. My '02 had none of the problems most had and my '05 Sport has none either. (I'm looking for some wood to knock on) If you have the upgraded stereo you can always turn it up. Or better yet get XM or Sirius radio. I have Sirius now and just love it. Had a bracket installed in both cars so I can move it between cars. There are so many neat things on there that I probably wouldn't hear the diff. noise if it was there.
I know what you are thinking; but it is a Jaguar and I shouldn't have to put up with this crap and of course you are right!
Jan 18, 2006 (7:32 pm)
Hi Everyone - I have a 2002 x-type and just had the transmission replaced (free of course) after a gear box fault message came up. Am wondering if many others have had this same problem - I guess I'm wondering if I made a mistake with this purchase. I love the car - would appreciate feedback. Also am wondering which type of gas to use. Both the salesman and the mechanic at the dealership said premium was unnecessary, but 'premium only' is posted right inside the gas door. What do you all use? Thanks so much.
#2323 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [nilejewel]
Jan 19, 2006 (8:10 am)
Welcome. I have always used Premium, but you will not damage the car by using regular gas. The engine has been tuned for premium gasoline, so it should run at its optimum temperature and performance on premium. As far as wondering whether you made a mistake? I am wondering myself.
#2324 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [nilejewel]
Jan 19, 2006 (11:20 am)
Between the owners manual and the fuel filler door instruction, why were you confused and felt the need to ask the salesman for his advice and opinion about fuel?
#2325 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [jaxs1]
Jan 19, 2006 (12:14 pm)
While it has not happened to me...several other owners have had their warranty voided by NOT using the prescribed gasoline...one of them admitted he hadn't used premium all the time and the dealership said the gumming up of his engine was caused by that (not entirely likely) but he had to pay for the repairs out of pocket because of this admission. I would recommend either 1) only using premium, 2) alternating between the two, 3) using regular but adding a fuel adder/cleaner occassionally, or 4) using regular but NEVER admitting it to the dealer. If you choose #4, be prepared to fight if your car has problems and they try and blame you rather than fix the problem.
#2326 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [toohuman]
Jan 19, 2006 (1:40 pm)
"...several other owners have had their warranty voided by NOT using the prescribed gasoline.."
Oh come on, get real. Anyone that would let a dealer tell them their warranty was void because of the gas they use is pretty guilible. I have been on Several Jaguar boards for over 4 years and I have NEVER heard that claim on any of them. My Jaguars had premium when I got them from the dealer and that was about the last tank they ever had. We have three grades where I live and I use the middle grade which is 89 octane. Cars have always run perfectly. If you want peak performance, perhaps 91+ octane would be better but I'm no longer a boy racer! It is a waste of money to put in higher octane than a car needs.
#2327 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [desertguy]
Jan 19, 2006 (2:59 pm)
I will respectfully disagree. If the manufacturer recommends premium, it is because the vehicle is tuned to perform best and return greater fuel economy on that grade of gasoline.
Using a lower grade in those cases usually results in a false economy. The vehicle's ECU will adjust the performance of the engine to accomodate the lower octane. But many times, that reduced performance is accompanied by reduced fuel economy. The savings in fuel purchases is offset by the lower economy. To top it off, you also get less performance.
However, the reverse is not the same. Using 91/93 in a vehicle designed to run on 87 usually will not produce increased performance or fuel economy.
#2328 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [jaxs1]
Jan 19, 2006 (5:09 pm)
Actually, my questions to the salesman and mechanic regarding the fuel type were during the 'research. stage' of the process. It wasn't until after I filled the car up the first time that I saw the posted sticker and realized I may have gotten some misinformation.
#2329 of 2594 Re: New Jag Owner [robr2]
Jan 19, 2006 (5:11 pm)
Thanks to all of you for your input, I have always used premium , also thinking that the difference in fuel price may be offset by reduced mileage - - but just wondered if there was some information out there I was unaware of.