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#2100 of 2600 Re: My first dealer visit [jimmy j]
Feb 24, 2005 (12:50 pm)
The dealer replaced the drive shaft, but the whining noise is still there. I think the problem is in the differential. The mechanic and his service adviser supposedly drove three other 2004 X-Types to compare the noises and surprisingly they were all louder than mine (I did not participate in this test, though). Apparently loud drivetrain noises and whine are a very common problem. Just search all forums using the word "whine" and you will get 10 pages of complaints related to drive train noises in various brands and models, although I did not see Mercedes, BMW or Audi mentioned. It is just very disappointing that Jaguar couldn't perfect its drivetrain. It is possible that some of us are very sensitive to any noises that shouldn't be there, especially when driving a Jaguar. The Company is certainly aware of the problem, the best example of that is a shield that they installed to the bottom of the vehicle above the drive shaft to quiet it down. I guess this is their solution to the whine issue. So, trying to persuade the dealer to fix these noises is like asking them to correct the issues that Jaguar (or Ford) engineers couldn't fix.
I have just come back from a 2,500-mile vacation trip from Chicago to South Carolina and back. The X-Type performed well with a cumulative gas mileage of 26 mpg, including cold starts, some city driving and a trip through Smoky Mountains. For the most part I was driving at 85mph, but at times reached 90 or even 95. On a short (70 miles) stretch I drove no faster than 65mph and the mileage for that distance came out at 31.5 mpg (not bad). For a 2.5 liter 5-speed, the car was very satisfying to drive through Smoky Mountains and its power felt adequate. Even on a steep highway uphill distances, where the semi-trucks were doing 30mph with emergency lights on, I was cruising at 80mph on the fifth gear. The 2.5 is not a rocket like the 3.0, but its power is quite sufficient for most applications. So, other than the annoying drive train whine (which if not corrected may persuade me to get rid of this Jaguar quicker than I thought), it is a fine automobile. The seats were also comfortable as I did not feel fatigue after 6 hours of continuous driving. The oil consumption over the first 4,000 miles of driving this vehicle is negligible and the oil still looks light and clean. I still don't like the stiffness of the clutch. It takes more muscle than it should to depress it. I recently went to the Chicago Auto Show and tried the clutch in any manual-transmission car on the floor. The X-types' clutch feels the stiffest of all, even when compared to the Kias, Chevys and even the muscular Mustang. You should try the clutch in a BMW 325, it gives out so little resistance! It must be a pleasure to drive. Anyway, let me know what you think of my observations, especially if you share them.
#2101 of 2600 Re: X-Type to be replaced by roadster? [zillz]
Feb 25, 2005 (5:07 pm)
Sales of the X-Type have been very poor lately. I hope they drop it.
#2102 of 2600 Re: X-Type to be replaced by roadster? [xkss]
Feb 25, 2005 (6:11 pm)
Well I just gave their sales a boost by purchasing one today. New '05 sport. Love it!
#2103 of 2600 Congrats Desertguy on your purchase!
Feb 28, 2005 (11:37 am)
Welcome to the family! What color and what options did you get? How much did it set you back?
#2104 of 2600 Re: Congrats Desertguy on your purchase! [axiomlover]
Feb 28, 2005 (2:28 pm)
Hi axiomlover: Well actually I've been in the family for the past 38 months. I bought an '02 when they first came out and had almost no problems with it. Lease was up and I turned it in as the residual was too high to purchase and there is no negotiation with Jaguar Credit. My spouse cried and cried when her baby left so I broke down and got another. Got to stay away from those dealers!
They have a special on 3.0 cars with sunroof at $399 per mo. BUT......on the floor was a really gorgeous 3.0 Sport. It is platinum with black leather and alcantra seats with perforated inserts. The sport package includes suspension, dynamic stability control, 18" Aruba wheels with Parelli PZeros, black upper and lower mesh grills, lower side sills and big exhaust tips. The car also has the X1 prem pack and heated seats, reverse park and a carbon fiber dash.
Couldn't resist. Sticker is 41K. I told them if they could lease it to me at the $399 for 39 months I would take it. We are driving it now. It is a head turner. BTW, they had several 2.5 manuals with sunroof for $23,xxx. I would snap one of those up in a second if my wife would put up with the manual. What a steal!
#2105 of 2600 I knew your user name was familiar!
Mar 03, 2005 (8:01 am)
Those Sport packages are really nice, especially with the 18" wheels, mesh and lower fascia. Congrats on a nice deal! $41thd sticker is no small change, but $399 per month makes it so much easier to own. Did you notice any significant changes/improvements from the '02 model you used to drive? How is the drivetrain noise?
#2106 of 2600 Re: I knew your user name was familiar! [axiomlover]
Mar 04, 2005 (7:36 am)
I'll keep the board posted if I have issues with drive train noise etc. Biggest improvement that I notice right off the bat is TWO cup holders instead of my previous one. No more fights with the spouse to see who gets the one & who has to hold the sweaty cup. Fortunately, my '02 was trouble free and I'm hoping this one will be to. I am not sold on the carbon fiber dash as I really like the wood. Also, I have not heard much positive about the Perelli PZero Nero tires. They handle great in the dry but tread life is not so good. And they are expensive.
#2107 of 2600 Re: My first dealer visit [axiomlover]
Mar 05, 2005 (10:47 pm)
I agree with your observations. I have an 03 X-Type 2.5 automatic - now with 23K on it. I've found the power more than adequate, and, my gas mileage on long trips is comparable to yours. Mine had a drive train noise problem - a droning, booming noise at idle and at about 3ooo rpm. The dealer replaced the torque converter flex plate, and, that eliminated it. One other strange thing about mine - just after its 20K service visit, I took the car on a long business trip, and, noticed that it was making noticably more power than before. The dealer and I have no idea why, but, I'm certainly enjoying the extra ooomp its got now.
#2108 of 2600 Somebody bring me up to speed
Mar 06, 2005 (10:00 am)
on the X-type, please. Why does Edmunds have "Production Limited" next to the 2.5L manual and the 3.0L automatic? Will there be a 2006 3.0L automatic?
#2109 of 2600 Re: Somebody bring me up to speed [postoak]
Mar 06, 2005 (1:16 pm)
Dealer told me back in Jan. that the 2.5 was no longer being produced, or at least no longer being shipped to the US. (Therefore, we are no longer interested in Jaguar and to snobs of Jaguar USA)
Don't know anything about the 3.0, though.