Jaguar X-Type

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#2029 of 2594 Why buy new with the big discounts? by ronnie44

Nov 28, 2004 (6:57 am)

I just bought a fully loaded X-type 3.0, 2004, automatic, metallic, nav system, Alpine stereo upgrade with 6CD changer, dual power heated seats, etc. This dealer demo had under 5,000 miles and came direct from a Jaguar dealer. Total cost was $26,599. New is great, but I can't see spending the additional thousands to drive the first few miles. With full factory warranty and 10,000 miles services for free, I think the savings far outweighed any concerns.

#2030 of 2594 Re: Why buy new with the big discounts? [ronnie44] by jagdeuce

Nov 28, 2004 (2:57 pm)

Replying to: ronnie44 (Nov 28, 2004 6:57 am)
Good move. Depreciation on Jaguars (and luxury cars in general) is so high that you can save signifant $$$ if you're lucky and find one that's less than 1yr/10,000 miles.
 
Is the deal final? If not, I would check to see if the certified used status is available. That gives you a 6yr, 100,000 mile warranty from orig. purchase date.
 
Of course it depends on how long you typically keep a car but it could be worth it even if it costs a few hundred bucks.
 
JAG

#2031 of 2594 Re: Why buy new with the big discounts? [jagdeuce] by ronnie44

Nov 28, 2004 (3:49 pm)

Replying to: jagdeuce (Nov 28, 2004 2:57 pm)
Yes, the vehicle was certified, so I did get the additional warranty. And yes, the deal is final and I've been driving it for a little over a week. It also has the xenon headlights, with the automatic leveling system. After going over the entire vehicle, I can't find a scratch, or a nick in the paint. The interior is spotless. It will probably take me two to three months to figure out the NAV system, but it seems to be working fine. The original window sticker price, which was down with the spare tire, was $41,140, not counting any tax or dealer charges. I figure I got almost a $3.00/mile discount.
 I probably will only keep this car 4-5 years, which should yield 50-60,000 miles. I have a couple of other vehicles that I drive also.

#2032 of 2594 X-type and the press - by mark_wny

Nov 28, 2004 (4:55 pm)

Is it my imagination - or does the automotive press in the US have a particular grudge against the X-type - and the Jaguar company in general? Even now, the canards about 'faulty electrical systems' and 'unreliability' are being passed out - 20 years after they had any real validity. Personally, I think Jaguar is a victim of 'press homicide' = a tragedy for the dedicated Jaguar employees back in Coventry. Any comments from board members?

#2033 of 2594 Re: X-type and the press - [mark_wny] by robr2

Nov 28, 2004 (5:34 pm)

Replying to: mark_wny (Nov 28, 2004 4:55 pm)
The automotive press looks at the X type and calls it a gussied up Mondeo/Contour. I realize that it isn't a straight badge engineering job but the press can be very critical. David E. Davis of Automobile in a recent article said it was the Jaguar nobody asked for. IMHO, the X-type really isn't anything special. It doesn't have the sporting capabilities of a BMW. It doesn't have the cache of MB. It doesn't have the reliability of Lexus.
 
The fact that I can walk into my local Jaguar emporium and buy an 04 X Type with stick shift for less than $23K is an issue - that's Honda/Nissan/Toyota territory. I happen to like the X Type styling and it may be a great buy. But other than the fact that there is a Jaguar label on it, what's the compelling reason to buy it?

#2034 of 2594 Re: X-type and the press - [robr2] by jagdeuce

Nov 28, 2004 (7:03 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 28, 2004 5:34 pm)
I believe you answered your own question. The compelling reason to buy it is that you can get a Jaguar at a Honda/Nissan/Toyota price.
 
It's truly unfortunate that the U.S. press beats the car down. The upside is that we can take advantage of it. Now you can get a great car with AWD,leather and features that compare favorably with a 3 series BMW for less than the price of a Camry.
 
It's like being in on a best kept secret. The bad press is forcing the price down. People see Jaguar and figure I paid 50 grand for the thing.
 
Don't worry about the press. If you think the car is a good deal, grab it and be thankful for the savings.
 
JAG

#2035 of 2594 Re: X-type and the press - [jagdeuce] by robr2

Nov 29, 2004 (8:17 am)

Replying to: jagdeuce (Nov 28, 2004 7:03 pm)
I believe you answered your own question. The compelling reason to buy it is that you can get a Jaguar at a Honda/Nissan/Toyota price.
 
Other than the price there is no other reason since the reputation is still one of high cost to maintain and poor resale. The greater issue is what a $23K Jaguar does to the reputation of the Jaguar brand.

#2036 of 2594 Mondeo References by geechheeman

Nov 29, 2004 (6:33 pm)

I find it interesting the American editors keep pressing the "Mondeo point", especially since the Mondeo is not sold or known in the US. What I have read in Euro magazines about the Mondeo is quite positive.
 
This past summer I rented a Mondeo diesel wagon in Italy and was very impressed. In fact, the interior had a few style points that I feel surpassed my X Type.
 
In my experience the comparison is NOT a negative!

#2037 of 2594 Re: X-type and the press - [robr2] by kernick

Nov 29, 2004 (7:08 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 29, 2004 8:17 am)
you: Other than the price there is no other reason ...
 
me: It doesn't seem to me that there are many mid-size cars with AWD, leather, wood-dash, V-6, climate control, Alpine stereo, and 4 year Maint and warranty. And you have a choice of standard or auto. Go check what a Subaru Legacy costs, and then tell me why not an X-Type.

#2038 of 2594 Re: X-type and the press - [kernick] by jagdeuce

Nov 29, 2004 (8:14 pm)

Replying to: kernick (Nov 29, 2004 7:08 pm)
Well said. If you can get this car new at 23K, you have a great bargain. Sure, resale value will be poor based on the MSRP but you make your savings on the front end, which is the best place to make it. The people who worry about resale value are those who paid close to sticker at purchase.
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