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#1752 of 2594 2 cup holder and voice activated controls?
Sep 18, 2003 (10:50 am)
Does anyone know if the 2004 X-Type will have 2 front seat cup holders and voice activated controls for the navigation? I currently own a 2000 Acura TL and I've been waiting to replace this car with the new 2004 TL. The feed back I've been getting from 2 dealerships is that the car will be selling for full sticker price and cars with navigation might not be available until December or later. I've decided to look for an alternate car, I need front wheel drive and navigation and duel front seat cup holders (both my wife and I are coffee drinkers). The X-type sounds like it could fit my needs IF the 2 cup holders are out. The Jaguar website does show or say anything about the cup holders or voice controls, any of you jag owners can shed some light?
Sep 18, 2003 (11:42 am)
I just bought a 2003 X-Type 2.5 and it has the dual front cupholders. I don't have the NAV system so cannot say about that.
#1754 of 2594 cupholders and voice control
Sep 18, 2003 (12:31 pm)
in short, yes. the 2004 x-type meets both your requirements (though it has awd not fwd).
#1755 of 2594 2.5 Discussion
Sep 19, 2003 (8:48 pm)
First of all, I love my X-Type and the service associated with ownership. Owning the problem child Infinity G35 is a chore. Infinity is also royal pain when it comes to service (if you can call it that). Infinity will go to great lengths to NOT fix issues. Jaguar, on the other hand, bends over backwards to retain customers. Jaguar now has me, and I am sure others, hooked for life. The entry level X-Type is doing a good job.
I am glad to see Jaguar slowly phasing-out the 2.5L. It is simply weak and under powered. I cannot wait to get rid of my lease for a quicker Jaguar. When Dodge Neons beat the 2.5L at a stoplight, it is time for a new car.
The 2.5L is the only thing I would change. Why would anyone want the 2.5L now if the 3.0L is more economical?
Do you think Jaguar marketing thought of this before offering the deap discounts?
#1756 of 2594 2.5 Discussion - msiseng
Sep 20, 2003 (6:34 am)
I would agree on your comments for the most part. The reason for the large number of sales for the 2.5 is the ridiculous difference in price between it and the 3.0. Jaguar is snagging many first time buyers with the ad campaign for the low lease rates. When they get to the dealer they find it is for the 2.5. I had a '03 2.5 loaner with 1500 miles on it and drove it about 250 miles. Not that underpowered but I was glad to get back into my 3.0. And BTW, the Dodge Neon will beat a lot of cars 0-60. They are a fast econo car. The new Neon SRT-4 will beat the 3.0 handily with a 0-60 time of 6.2 seconds.
#1757 of 2594 complimentary service
Sep 20, 2003 (8:36 pm)
I read the complimentary service being offered is once every 10k miles or 12 months between oil/filter changes.
Is that right/recommended?
I thought oil changes should be every 3k miles or 3 months or at least every 6k miles.
I dont anticpate 10k miles in 1 year.
#1758 of 2594 Reply To Two Previous Posts
Sep 20, 2003 (9:11 pm)
The Dodge Neon SRT-4 is fast. It is just embarrassing when it can beat a Jaguar hands-down. Jaguars are known for performance, right? My Infinity G35 blows away (performance only) the S-Type 4.0 which I find sad given the ENORMOUS price differential. Granted, it is the same Front-Midship (FM) racing engine used in five other Nissan/Infinity vehicles (Altima 3.5, Maxima 3.5, 350Z, I35 and the FX). Disclaimer: In the future, I will gladly pay for this differential due to Jaguar service and the Jaguars' aesthetic qualities.
Jaguar offers the 10K service for free. If you let the oil go that long, your engine WILL build sludge. Lexus used to recommend this service interval and now has to take back many leased "sludge" cars. "Sludge Car" is the technical term the Lexus dealers now use. What about the people who own? Well, they are stuck with expensive engine repairs. How do I know this? Well, an acquaintance is a chief mechanic for Lexus and tells horror stories. Lexus did their customers a disservice and now Jaguar is doing the same.
Even if you do not drive 10K miles in one year, change the oil every six months to be safe.
I had the Jag oil changed at 4K miles to be safe even if the car is leased. The cost was an appalling $49.00 at the dealer. However, the dealer performed a lot of free maintenance, replaced a defective tire and performed a mini-detail, so the price is palatable. Love this service!
Question: Are both the 2.5L and the 3.0L made is Cleveland, Ohio? Does Ford make the S-Type engines in the states or in England?
Sep 21, 2003 (7:12 am)
just my preference... I've always changed my oil every 3-4K which comes out to be 1 every 3-5 months depends on what I'm doin.... my dad just blew up the engin in his malibue cause he hasn't had the oil changed once and it a 99... AHAHAHAHAHAHAH and he blames me for it... well anyways... to answer the next question yes I do believe both engine types of the X type are made 40 mins from my house in clevland... as to the S type I thought that was still made overseas but I believe it will be switching plants to here with the comming of the 04 X types so I'm gonna take a stab at half way through 2004 the S types engines will start being made in cleveland... have fun... and by the way I'm considering a used S type now instead of a new X type... any suggestions or words of warning on them...? thankx
Sep 21, 2003 (5:51 pm)
Do you really want a Rear Wheel Drive (RWD) vehicle living in Cleveland? You may want to rethink that one as the S Type is RWD or did Ford change to All Wheel Drive (AWD) in '04?
I test drove both, got the X-Type and am very happy with the AWD performance on wet pavement. Got me through the Washington, DC Blizzard last year. Also test drove the S Type against the G35 and made the mistake of a buying the Japanese RWD G35. Already looking to trade this for the S Type-R.
I much prefer the 4.0 S Type to the 3.0. The 3.0 reminds me too much of the Lincoln. They share the same engine and platform and the Lincoln is far less expensive.
#1761 of 2594 cleveland winters
Sep 21, 2003 (8:13 pm)
Go x-type go!!! It was just awsome this past winter in cleveland. Strongly reccommend the DSC which is now a separate option with almost all packages. Only real contender now is the new G-35 AWD, on sale in Dec. Service at Infiniti is not up to Jag standard, but it may not have as many gremlins as my 02