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You are in the Jaguar X-Type
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Jaguar X-Type, Sedan
#1583 of 2600 vqd2 and Desertguy
Jun 07, 2003 (12:05 pm)
Sorry to answer so late. Just got back from a beach trip with the X. It is amazing how many suitcases and golf bags the wife and I can fit in the trunk. The ride just gets better with age. A little Eagle Talon beat the you know what out of the X 2.5 from a standing stoplight. Oh well. The X looks better and turns so many heads.
Just got the recall from Jaguar even though they fixed the problem on my last visit.
Desertguy is correct when explaining what "GECM" stands for. I am giving the board what the service advisors see when they pull the recall on the Jaguar National Computer Network. I am very fortunate to have an excellent service manager who explains everything to me. If anyone in the Washington, DC area needs a good dealership, contact me. It is nice to finally work with a good dealer.
Recall Action 935 reads: "Directional Indicator Tell Tale Operation System. 2002 and 2003 Model Year Jaguar X-type....VIN Number Range C00294 to D17471. When power is lost to the external directional indicators the internal 'tell tale' indicators located within the instrument pack flash as if there is no fault with the system. Investigations have determined that the design of the General Electric Module that controls this system includes feedback to the driver via a "tell tale" (sic) function for bulb failure but does not include feedback in event of power loss to the external direction indicator system. Therefore in the event of power loss to the direction indicator system and the non-operation of the external indicators, the internal indicators operate normally providing the driver with no warning that there is a failure within the system. Failure to properly signal a turn could lead to a crash.
To overcome this concern on all affected vehicles Jaguar Cars will replace the General Electric Module with a new unit that contains software providing correct feedback should a power loss occur."
Important: Bring all car keys to the dealer as the keys and need reprogramming at the time of the service recall.
Hope this helps clarify for those that did not receive the notice
#1584 of 2600 x-type history
Jun 07, 2003 (12:49 pm)
3.0 sport manual with x1,x2,x3,alpine and xenons
delivery 11/01 currently 23k miles
1) paint not smooth at delivery had to be wet sanded
2) trunk did not close properly
3) drivers door would not open latch replaced 2x
4) overheated- fan relay repaced
5) brake rotors warped
6)sunroof button rattles replaced
7) defroster vents do not stay snapped down
8) gas gauge failed
9) overheated again fan relay and thermostat replaced
10) brakes warp again, sevice guys over torqued lugs
11)power steering pump leak
12) gas door would not open
13) all recalls and electronic TSB performed
Needless to say I've gotten to know my service personel very well. The current dealer Westside is great. Delivers loaner and picks up but I plan on a repair every 6 weeks or so.
But the compliments from others are amazing, there just is nothing close in looks as the adriatic blue sport in this price range,
At 80-100mph it is rock solid and drives great. The new GEM upgrade really smooths out the engine and improves throttle response in third and fourth. Plus it is awesome in the snow
#1585 of 2600 To msiseng >>>Sent you an email off line
Jun 09, 2003 (5:15 am)
re: dealership contact you could trust. But youcan post it here if it's more convenient. Thanks
Jun 09, 2003 (5:21 am)
It's okay to post the name of a dealership, but not a specific salesperson....
#1587 of 2600 Dealership for Service
Jun 10, 2003 (2:26 pm)
Now that it is OK to post a dealership name, Manhattan Jaguar in Rockville, MD is by far the best at service in the Washington, DC area.
Wish I could post my service advisor's name as he raises the bar for all others. He is the one who gives me the computer codes for my posts as he knows I post edmunds.com.
BTW - the used car manager is a less than friendly (nobody likes him), so I recommend going straight to a new car salesperson if you want to buy a used Jaguar. Tell them you do not want to deal with the used car manager and they will not put you through the pain and suffering.
I paid MORE for a vehicle at Manhattan because I know the service is top-notch and hassle-free. You can find cheaper prices elsewhere, but not the same service. So far, I would score them a perfect 10 out of 10!!!
Hope this helps some in the area suffering with bad dealerships.
#1588 of 2600 x-type history
Jun 13, 2003 (10:26 am)
Similar to KSSOD, here's my x-type's history to warn anyone who is interested in this car:
2.5 manual, X1,2,3, moonroof. Delivered Nov 02, about 12K miles on it:
- Coolant system leak (before delivery) 2 attempts to fix - successful
- Driver seat squeaks (loud enough to hear over the stereo) 4 attempts to fix -- temporary fix, problem now back
- moonroof rattle -- 2 attempts to fix - successful
- dash rattle -- "no problem found" - still rattles
- driver rear door handle squeaks -- mechanic applied so much lubricant to handle mechanism that it's still leaking out on the door 1 month later (I was told to wash the car & it will be okay -- I suspect that there is a huge gob of lubricant in the door that will sooner or later seep through the interior trim, tan color, and stain it)
- trunk trim fell out and won't reseat -- waiting on parts
- driver seat loose -- tightened seat chassis bolts, fixed
- engine runs rough at idle -- 4 attempts (oxygen sensor replaced, reset ECM for manual trans - was set at auto trans from factory, reflashed ECM with new software) still not fixed
- brakes seize if car left sitting for more than a day -- 3 attempts, "no problem found" although the service manager told me he saw pad imprints on the rotors, won't replace pads or rotors unless the mechanic "sees" the seized brakes
- fault indicator "fuel data system failure", just occurred, haven't taken in to service yet.
The car does have positive attributes, but anyone interested in purchasing has to understand that the traditional poor build quality is still part of the Jaguar experience, and while the service reps are very friendly (I also get a free pen and pad of paper with each visit) the mechanics are no better than average.
#1589 of 2600 ps2g4 - Build Quality
Jun 15, 2003 (9:26 am)
I understand YOUR build quality issues. But, the rest of us do not "have to understand" that there is poor build quality overall. My car 3.0 2002 which is now about 18 months old has had absolutely no problems other than the leaky washer jets which were fixed at the first service. Don't drag the whole Jaguar line down because of your problems.
#1590 of 2600 Dealership for Service by msiseng Jun 10, 2003 (6:26 pm)
Jun 15, 2003 (1:49 pm)
Thanks for the info...I thought so.
Have you heard anything about Rosenthal in Tyson?
Jun 15, 2003 (4:34 pm)
Be afraid, very afraid! Spend the extra money and cross the bridge into Maryland for service. There are horror stories about this dealership.
Washington Checkbook Magazine (much like Consumer Reports) ranks dealerships in our area. You can obtain a copy at most bookstores.
I think there is a new Jaguar dealer in Alexandria, Va? Word-of-mouth indicates they really try to please the customer. When I was pricing the car, they were very honest regarding prices. I toured the facility (then under construction) and the sales managers were gracious and they were assembling a service team at that time. They told me there were picking the best from other area Jaguar dealers. You might give want to them a try.
#1592 of 2600 Thanks for tip msiseng .
Jun 19, 2003 (7:30 am)
I work in Old Town..haven't heard of any Jaguar dealership will look into it.
Can you email me your service guy's name.
I will take you up on your rec. thanks again!