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#1474 of 2594 2003 X-type review - (sans les photos)
by jagboyxtype
Feb 17, 2003 (2:28 pm)
The Car Place's "The Car Family" just conducted a full length review of a new 2003 X-type 3.0 litre:
http://www.thecarplace.com/famxtype.htm
"...if you want to get into a Jaguar, this is the one to own."
- from "The Car Family" Big Picture
The guy named "Bob," who interrupts the review at one point to talk about how "Women love these cars. Lust after these cars." also has notes on a 2002 X-type Sport here:
http://www.thecarplace.com/notes12.htm#02xtype
(X-type notes are the second ones on the page.)
Feb 17, 2003 (4:34 pm)
My build date is the same as yours and I bought my car about the same time you did. The difference is that I have had none of the problems most have had except the weeping washers
that started on my way home from the dealer. I bought my car in California where I was living and I really liked the dealer there. I have moved to the midwest and the closest dealer is 75
miles away. Not a good situation IMO. I love my car but when the lease is up I doubt that I will consider another Jag because of the dealer situation.
Feb 17, 2003 (5:24 pm)
A lack of a vast dealer network has been an issue for Jaguar. They only have something around 150 dealers in the United States. All of Mexico has only around 3 (which are shared with other high-end cars). That's why Ford wanted Jaguar and Land Rover dealerships to combine, in order to strengthen the dealer newtwork. Chevrolet has something like 3,000+ dealers in the U.S., and German competitors to Jag have about 350 dealerships.
Survey: Jaguar sells more 2.5's than 3.0's, but I'm wondering what the demographics are here. Also, I've heard Topaz is the best-selling color - let's see how that works out here:
Hey, what color is everyone's X-type? And what is the engine size you chose?
Me:
1) Carnival Red
2) 3.0 litre
Feb 17, 2003 (5:54 pm)
Well jagboyxtype, you already know that our cars are twins. Topaz, silver, and black are the most prominent that I see. Part of this is dealer stocking policy. You go on a lot, you don't usually see the reds, or BRG.
Feb 17, 2003 (7:27 pm)
I guess my car and Marchie's car are twins. I own white x-type 2.5L. I personally prefer black, but there wasn't any black car that met my specifications (manual, premimum, weather, & xenon) in the lot.
Also, thank you for the instruction on radio setting. It really did make a world of difference.
Feb 18, 2003 (12:50 pm)
Living in Chicago at least I have a fairly good choice of Dealers. In my case my local dealer is literally around the block from my house. Pretty sweet! I know a friend who moved in North Carolina and had to sell his car because the closest dealer was too far away. I agree that a better dealer network would help sell more cars.
As far as the problems with my car I had a few odd issues with the rain sensing wipers and key chiming not working that was a challenge to the dealer. They had to get another identical car and use that computer to re-program my car. Every other issue has been well discussed on this board. It is weird how cars made at the same time would not have at least some of the same issues.
Also the radio setting may not have any effect in a city setting when the FM signal is strong. In fact too many radio stations may cause a problem with multipath distortion if the boost is on. It really depends on where you live. If most of your stations are 10+ miles away then the signal boost would help. Otherwise I would recommend you keep the settings on US.
My car is Topaz/Sand with 3.0
Premium package
Premium sound
Feb 20, 2003 (9:42 am)
I recently have had the opportunity to drive the 2.5 and compare it to my own 3.0 engine. My dealer gives out loaner X-type's when my car is in for service and they are 2.5's. My comparison is based on both cars being automatics. I can say without any doubt that the 3.0 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the 2.5. The 2.5 has to be pushed to keep up with faster traffic in stop and go driving. The transmission on the '03 that I have been driving also hunts around much more looking for the right gear. It seems to downshift without much pedal effort.
Also, the 17 inch tires make the '03 handle better but are more harsh when hitting Midwest potholes this time of year. I actually prefer the slightly smother ride on my '02. I also wonder why Jaguar moved away from the lighted LED computer display to an LCD back lit version. The LCD version can't be seen in bright light with sunglasses on. Did Jaguar have a problem with the LED version?
#1481 of 2594 paint on brand new car body parts?
by marchie
Feb 20, 2003 (10:55 am)
Hello, nice to see you again after my PA recent snowstormy trip. Thanks for your answers. No, the rust is not just at the edges but all over and so are the exhaust pipes. Snow-White likes the snow, of course even heavy, on the roads, but I believe not the snow or even condensation covered her mufflers with chicken pox stuff, but the harsh semi-(caustic) salt, semi- (coal) ash they use in PA to cover roads when it snows. And God, it was 3 ft --to shovel 300 yds driveway--, twice) lots of occasions to drive on those, not snowy roads, but harsh simply scratching anything passing over, 3 inch coats of crystals. My heart was cramping while hearing those scratching sounds hitting under as I was hurt myself. As my other baby is a 31 year old ...unexhausted runner, of course I used the trick with the heat-resistant paint on her pipes (the muffler itself does not seem to care about wetness/salt/etc for at least 13 years since I bought it). But this situation refers to brand new cars, in WARRANTY, when any personal modification voids this warranty. So I cannot do anything for about what? ... 50k miles, but to suffer this uggliness, if I do not want to interfer with the warranty policy.
PS. Of course, on the way home, I was still in the flattery to see a Mustang trying to see my baby's face (by passing it) but did not have a chance (again, please do not report) while she was running 100 mph.
Feb 20, 2003 (11:13 am)
Painting the exhaust should not void the warranty on the rest of the car. The only thing it might not cover is damage to the parts you paint but unless it was caused by the paint it should not be an issue. Alternatively you could put on a stainless steel cat-back exhaust (assuming one is available). It won't void the warranty either.
#1483 of 2594 X-type is Official 2003 Trans-Am Safety Car
by jagboyxtype
Feb 23, 2003 (1:50 am)
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat- - _code=motorsportsnews&loc_code=index&content_code=0165867- - 6
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030222/lasa001_1.html
Both of these articles about Jaguar's new engine for their racing XKR's also makes note of the X-type being the official safety car for 2003!
<<EXCERPT>>"And since 2001, Jaguar North America has increased its ties to Trans-Am by providing a contingency sponsorship to the series -- comprising a pole award that offers a two-year lease on a Jaguar XK sports car, and prize money to drivers finishing in the top three positions.
For the 2003 season, which kicks off with the Grand Prix of St. Petersburg, in Florida February 23, Jaguar North America will also supply an all-wheel-drive X-TYPE compact sports sedan for the series' safety car.
From its beginning as a manufacturer of motorcycle sidecars, Jaguar Cars has grown to become one of the world's premier manufacturers of prestigious automobiles. The Jaguar marque continues to stand for an unparalleled heritage and a tradition of elegant style, luxurious comfort, and refined performance.
Today, Jaguar delivers the "art of performance" to customers by offering a four-model range of luxury sedans and sports cars. The 2002 Jaguar X-TYPE now makes the marque accessible to a new segment of customers and is the company's first all-wheel drive model. The X-TYPE sport sedan combines a fresh performance spirit with the luxury, craftsmanship and refinement for which Jaguar is renowned."
I wonder if it will be one like that "modded" X-type racing concept since Rocket Sports is involved in this too.