Jaguar X-Type

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What is this discussion about? Jaguar X-Type, Sedan

#1068 of 2594 jagboyxkr by lenscap

May 31, 2002 (2:48 pm)

"...but I must say that I do not think that Jaguar is having many more problems with any of their models than any other manufacturer."
 
This is not true, especially compared to the Japanese cars.
 
If you take a look at J.D. Power's latest study in 2002 initial vehicle quality (released yesterday) you'll see there's not a Jaguar to be found at the top of any list.
 
Lots and lots of Japanese products. And the plant that produces the best cars in the world is located in Japan.
 
That's not to say that somebody does not prefer a Jaguar to own. There is a lot of emotion that goes into car buying that is not based on facts.

#1069 of 2594 lenscap by jagboyxkr

May 31, 2002 (3:11 pm)

I never said that I did not think that Jaguar has no problems, but I did say that I do not believe that they are having any more problems than the majority of other manufacturers, and that although they are not the most reliable cars, they also are no worse than most anyone else.
 
How is your Toyota engine sluge, anyway?

#1070 of 2594 reliability by akirby

May 31, 2002 (6:01 pm)

Initial quality only covers the first 90 days. Long term reliability is more important. If you check the 2001 long term reliability report which counts problems after 4-5 years, you'll see that Jaguar is #3 just behind Lexus and Infiniti and just ahead of #4 Lincoln. Would you rather have 90 days of quality or 5 years? See for yourself.

http://www.jdpa.com/presspass/pr/images/01102afull.gif

#1071 of 2594 Leather cleaner - jagboyxkr by desertguy

May 31, 2002 (6:44 pm)

Yeah, has to be the carnival red.<G> I just purchased Lexol cleaner and conditioner(separate bottles) I've used Lexol in the past with good results. You do put me to shame though as I have not cleaned my seats yet and they do need it. I have some beautiful sheepskins from other cars I've had but there are two problems. The head restraints do not come of and require an upholstery shops help and then there are the side airbags that would be covered up. I think with proper maintenance the naked leather is probably the way to go.

#1072 of 2594 desertguy by jagboyxkr

Jun 01, 2002 (1:31 pm)

Yeah, I agree with you about the leather. Overall, it is probably the best way to go. I hadn't considered the side airbags until you mentioned them. I just don't want the seats to age before their time. I parked next to a bright red (Phoenix) XKR convertible, and the tan seats inside the car were in horrible condition. The natural texture lines in the leather were so dirty that they were totally black. On Ivory, that would look even worse.
 
Thanks for the Lexol information. I'll go check it out.

#1073 of 2594 Leather care by keyrow

Jun 02, 2002 (2:20 pm)

As the owner of a detailing business I recommend everyone check out Leatherique, we have found their products provide the best cleaning and replenishment of vital oils of any product currently available. The Rejuvinator Oil also does not produce a slippery surface, as do some other products, so you will not be sliding all over after treating your seats. Lexol is good, but Leatherique is better!

http://www.leatherique.com/Default.htm

#1074 of 2594 keyrow by jagboyxkr

Jun 02, 2002 (3:30 pm)

Thanks for the information. I'll add Leatherique to my list of care products to look at.

#1075 of 2594 jagboyxkr by lenscap

Jun 03, 2002 (6:58 am)

I was mearly pointing out a fact: the X-Type, as a brand new model, is having more initial problems than many other new luxury cars. More than the Lexus ES 300 or SC 430. More than the Infiniti G35 or Q45. More than the Acura RSX or MDX.
 
I also said that, of course, there is more to buying a car than just reliability. There is a lot of emotion involved. People buy cars for a host of reasons.
 
As for the engine sludge, I've had no problem whatsoever. And if a day comes when there is a problem, I am confident Lexus would take care of the problem. Unlike your beloved Jaguar, which according to the previously posted article (a trade article for dealers no less, not a consumer article) has annoyed many customers by not responding to their problems.
 
No car is perfect, or made for everybody. You need to listen to the criticism people have of the X-Type as well as the positives instead of getting so defensive.

#1076 of 2594 lenscap by desertguy

Jun 03, 2002 (7:33 am)

One does wonder why you feel it necessary to get on the Jag. BB and post unflattering articles about the X Type when you admittedly "have no experience with the car whatsoever." And are not in the market for one as far as I can tell. Maybe you are trying to validate your choice of the Lexus? The ES300 is not comparable to the X.

#1077 of 2594 desertguy by lenscap

Jun 03, 2002 (11:22 am)

Since I have access to automotive articles most people don't, I post lots of articles (good and bad).
 
There are people reading these forums searching for information that do not know a lot about cars. By posting articles these people can learn more before buying a car. That's why many people go to Edmunds - for new info.
 
Despite what you may think, I have nothing against the X-Type. I believe the more competitors the better.
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