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Check Engine light
by jboehm
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Apr 18, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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2004 300M with 84000 miles. Over the past several months the check engine light comes on, then turns itself off after some time (days or weeks). The first time it happened it threw a p0441 error. Changed the fuel cap thinking that might do it but light remained on. When I got to the dealership to have them check it out they said that the computer was not throwing any errors and they just turned the light off. It came on again a few weeks later, same error, but turned itself off about 3 - 4 weeks later. I have had error p0442 once, figured since a leak was finally detected better get it fixed, but light went off again. Light came back on again today with the p0441 error. The only commonality I can see is it seems to always happen when I have 1/2 tank of fuel. Anybody have any thoughts?
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- #26319 of 26363
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Re: Check Engine light [jboehm]
by cadence
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Apr 18, 2009 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: jboehm (Apr 18, 2009 12:16 pm)
At least your check engine light goes off after a couple of weeks. mine doesnt. my mechanic says its because i fill the tank with the engine running. uh-oh. so i quit doing that and the light came on again. ive been told about the gas cap thing too. that didnt work. i occasionally put PLUS or even PREMIUM in my 300M 2002 and thought maybe that upgraded fuel is too rich for the Oxygen sensor.....so I quit that too. Light is still on and car seems fine. its got 75K miles on it. I guess I'll have to wait until something busts,
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Re: Check Engine light [cadence]
by duffer65
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Apr 20, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: cadence (Apr 18, 2009 2:04 pm)
Have the same problem with my 2003 300M. It comes on for a few weeks, then goes off, then comes on again. Code said some type of air pump recirculator for gas fumes ~ $400 to fix. Car runs fine, ~ 92k. When the weather is colder, it doesn't stay on too long. Mechanic said a minor problem unless you have an emissions test to pass. Probably fix it at 100,000 k when timing belt and other things need replacement.
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iboehm Codes
by hayneldan
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Apr 20, 2009 (2:39 pm)
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0441=Evap Purge Flow Monitor =Insufficient or excessive vapor flow detected during evaporative emission system operation.
0442= Evap Leak Monitor Medium Leak Detected = A small leak has been detected in the evaporative system
Could be caused by filling the tank after hose automatacally shuts off, or a leak in the hoses connected to the tank or crack in the plastic evap system canister under the hood.
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Re: iboehm Codes [hayneldan]
by coolrunning
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Apr 22, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: hayneldan (Apr 20, 2009 2:39 pm)
This is the third time I have encountered someone with this problem. I didn't believe it was possible, but those sign at the gas pumps that read 'DO NOT TOP OFF" are there as a result of fires, damage to sensors on cars and a lot of other weird things that have happeened when you overfill your tank. There is a vapor sensor in the overflow tube of most modern gas tank designs that detects volotile organic compounds (VOC's) emissions from your gas tank as the fuel expands until the pressure is high enough for it to vent to atmosphere. If you leave no vapor space in the fuel tank and fill it until it is 100% full of liquid gasoline, when the fuel expands with heat, it squirts liquid through the overflow wetting the vapor sensor. Since the sensor is designed for vapors, not liquid, it apparently triggers a "check engine" light. I wonder if you will continue to have the problem if you don't top off. It is tempting to do it when you find gas really cheap somewhere, but it really doesn't save you much. 
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Re: iboehm Codes [coolrunning]
by jboehm
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Apr 25, 2009 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: coolrunning (Apr 22, 2009 4:33 pm)
Don't top off, never have. Once the pump clicks then that is all that goes into the tank.
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- #26324 of 26363
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1999 chrysler concorde a/c stopped working
by tammieh
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Apr 26, 2009 (5:50 am)
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I have a 99 concorde and a/c worked fine. Then from nowhere. I smelt something burning, well my air hasn't got cold since. What should I check? Tried to find thermostat for a/c, is there one ?
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- #26325 of 26363
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Re: 1999 chrysler concorde a/c stopped working [tammieh]
by rogjack6112
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Apr 26, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: tammieh (Apr 26, 2009 5:50 am)
Hope someone who knows more answers you.
I have a 99 concorde and 99 300M.
The ac compressor will not run if the radiator electric fan is not running. Check this first as these go out. Get it hot and look.
I don't know what the burning was ?
the ac compressor needs a certain freon level to run also.
Good Luck let us know tttthe results. rogjack6112
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Re: Check Engine light [jboehm]
by whatsgood
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Apr 27, 2009 (3:37 am)
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Replying to: jboehm (Apr 18, 2009 12:16 pm)
2004 300M with 78000 milles I hate this car! I just bought this car 3/19/2009 and thats all i have had was problems with it. First the converter, the check engine light comes on and off when ever it wants to. now it barley change gears. it doesnt know if it wants to drive or stop im sick of this car. does anyone no how i can get rid of it. It looks good but its junk if you ask me. Can someone please tell me what might be wrong with it now. is my transmission going or what? once i was at a light and i put it in park, when the light turn green i put it in drive the car didnt move until it felt like it. Then it took off, then it started to drag when my RPM needle got up to 3 then it decided to come back to reality and drive like it suppose to. i was hoping and praying it would at least get me and my son home.
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Re: Check Engine light [whatsgood]
by mrmusic4ads
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Apr 27, 2009 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: whatsgood (Apr 27, 2009 3:37 am)
Good luck. i own a 2002. dashboard doesn't like up anymore, had to replace the interior door handles. Transmission blew up at 114,000km - i had an "extended" warrenty to 115,000km of which they [chrysler] said, "it went into service 6 days before the year that was offered". I had to fight for weeks to get anything back on a $4500 replacement. It took weeks to get repaired. All I got was $1500.
Oh, my automatic lights go on and off randomly, even during the day, the car will be sitting in my drive with the lights just going on and off. What the tire pressure gauges too, i've had to replace 3 already.
I'm done with Chrysler, their lousy products and customer service. Apparently they don't want to stay in business. Just watch the news.
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