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#26278 of 26363 by cebteb Jul 02, 2008 (9:32 am)
For those wondering about any common issues with the 300M, I've got a few I'll document here for our 1999 300M with 42K miles on it. First, the Goodyear tires that came on this vehicle are junk (unstable belts inside the tire). Don't buy a 300M that has maintained Goodyear tires as you will never keep them balanced. The Yoko 420 is an excellent replacement.   Front brake rotors. Our first set warped by 20K miles and were replaced with another set of stock rotors (they warp because of heat; turning them lessens their thickness and they warp sooner the next time so they are usually replaced). They warped by 40K miles and we bit the bullet and paid for Brembo rotors to end the problem.   Struts. Stiff ride to begin with (standard model, not the high performance model) that got really bad by around 20K. Replaced all the stock struts with Monroe (mistake, should have gone for the LHS struts for a more comfortable ride) and discovered the strut mounts were shot/broken/kaput. Replaced the mounts with Monroe. 42K miles and the car clanks over bumps. Good wheel and axle shop discovers the front strut mounts are shot/loose/damaged/separated/kaput. Replaced front strut mounts with whatever high quality brand the shop used. Our 300M now rides almost like new, but we are certainly poorer.   Window controls. We had all 4 replaced under warranty, one twice the first three years of ownership. No problem for years, then the front passenger side window stops responding to the front passenger's window control. Still can open it with the driver's control. Will get this fixed eventually as it is a PITA.   Why do we still have this car? We average almost 20 mpg in all around driving. It's 8 years old and still looks better than 90% of the cars in any parking lot. The engine is first rate. Great power and acceleration without bad gas mileage. Roomy interior with great leather seats that would be hard to find in a replacement vehicle. Great handling performance (as long as you keep the tires, brakes, and struts up to snuff). To get a replacement equivalent to this car we would have to spend at least $40K and we can't quite afford that.
#26279 of 26363 Sounds like a air pump by garygh Jul 03, 2008 (8:16 am)
I have a 2000 300M. The last two years I have had a sound in the engine that I will describe as sounding like a air pump leaking air. I have this sound only when the car is driven...never at idle. When the car is at idle it runs and sounds like new but once under way I can hear this sound more and more. To my knowledge there is no air pump on the 3.5 engine.. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Gary
#26280 of 26363 Checking in by 02owner Jul 04, 2008 (9:18 pm)
Hope this message finds everyone well.   My 2002 300M is now approaching 88,000 miles. Just had to replace the evaporator for the A/C system at a cost of $1450. Earlier in the year, replaced the battery (preventative maintenance) and tires (I actually got Eagle LS-2's and they have been fine).   Also got the TSB taken care of for cracking bolts on front buckets (if you have not gotten this attended to, I strongly recommend you do so - for some reason the bolts fail after a while). I have the usual brake pad problems and consider it the price of having a good car.   I have driven the new 300 Base and Touring, and both are very nice, but I have become very attached to my 300M, which is the best car I have ever owned, including fine Buicks and Oldsmobiles through the years. I think Chrysler over-engineered and over-equipped the 1999 - 2004 car, which they did not do with the new 300's, probably because M-B cut costs in order to offset the installation of their fine rear suspension system.   Hard to believe how the interior has been cheapened in the new series, though I understand it was upgraded for 2008.   Best to all. Replies to this message: jw300m (Jul 07, 2008 11:32 am) 02owner (Jul 07, 2008 12:22 pm) coolrunning (Jul 07, 2008 5:58 pm)
#26281 of 26363 Re: Checking in [02owner] by jw300m Jul 07, 2008 (11:32 am)
Replying to: 02owner (Jul 04, 2008 9:18 pm) The Evap. seems to be a common problem on Chrysler products...I believe that I have a small leak in mine but I have been adding about a half of pound of freon every 3-4 months and it is ICE cold...lets see, in conclusion...over the last 2 years I have spent about $40 on the freon and about 2 hours of my time....yeah, not worth a new Evap.   Now, hopefully the leak wont get bigger!! Replies to this message: 02owner (Jul 07, 2008 12:22 pm) coolrunning (Jul 07, 2008 5:58 pm)
#26282 of 26363 Re: Checking in [jw300m] by 02owner Jul 07, 2008 (12:22 pm)
Replying to: jw300m (Jul 07, 2008 11:32 am) Right. I think that in my case, the leak had been pretty bad. The decline had been noticable beginning last September.
#26283 of 26363 Re: Checking in [jw300m] by coolrunning Jul 07, 2008 (5:58 pm)
Replying to: jw300m (Jul 07, 2008 11:32 am) I thought I had a leak in my evaporator, but after injecting some dye with the refrigerant during the last recharge, it turned out to be a tiny leak in the condenser compression fittings under the hood. The total cost of the fix was under $10.00, which included the replacement of two "o" rings and the evacuation of air from my system before the replacement of the refrigerant. The A/C is working great, and I have to raise the thermostat to about 72F on long trips, or it freezes my arms!
#26284 of 26363 by cebteb Jul 09, 2008 (8:54 am)
$1,400 for an evaporator replacement sounds like dealership prices. We've found a good independent shop and have cut our maintenance costs almost in half on our 1999 300M, plus the work gets done right the first time. Replies to this message: coolrunning (Jul 11, 2008 6:59 pm)
#26285 of 26363 Re: Front End Knocking Sounds [bb_lhs_2k] by 99300m Jul 10, 2008 (4:17 pm)
Replying to: bb_lhs_2k (Jun 23, 2002 8:27 am) i have a 99' 300m and it makes a clack when im backing up in a sharp turn from the driver side but i have new struts and checked the cv axle and nothing but it only makes one clack like something is just shifting is this related Replies to this message: coolrunning (Jul 11, 2008 6:55 pm)
#26286 of 26363 Re: Front End Knocking Sounds [99300m] by coolrunning Jul 11, 2008 (6:55 pm)
Replying to: 99300m (Jul 10, 2008 4:17 pm) Have you had your tranmission/motor mounts checked? Front wheel drives have a tendency to tear them up especially if the engine is powerful. The 3.5L V6 produces about 255 HP and may have damaged the mounts enough for the engine to torque over when in reverse.
#26287 of 26363 Re: [cebteb] by coolrunning Jul 11, 2008 (6:59 pm)
Replying to: cebteb (Jul 09, 2008 8:54 am) I also use a very good independent shop for all repairs that are out of warranty. They are certified and trained to work on just about any car, and I have never had to take anything back to them after they repaired it. They charge about 2/3 of the dealership price, and always have the car out on time as promised. Dealership service departments are too big and unorganized to get anything done on time and correctly the first time, in my experience.

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