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Chrysler 300M, Sedan
Apr 17, 2003 (8:16 am)
...which will be the 300N (or close to it).
From a personal point of view, I am not yet impressed, but it may grow on me. However, I am looking at it as the successor to the 300M rather than an entirely new car, and from that viewpoint, it falls short. If I look at it from an objective viewpoint, the car has some design merits. Actually, it seems right in line with many of the other concept and new production cars being produced for 2004 and beyond.
However, I see a lot more "Daimler" than "Chrysler" in the 300C. The car almost seems to have a cold, German look to it, IMHO. What's missing is that edgy design difference that identified Chryslers throughout the years...
#23443 of 26385 300C price speculation?
Apr 17, 2003 (8:52 am)
I haven't seen anybody guess at the price tag for this new beast. Based on the description by Chrysler, I'm thinking in the $45K range at least. They're talking luxury segment, not entry-level.
#23444 of 26385 About the design...
Apr 17, 2003 (9:31 am)
New 300C came from the Chronos, and not from a Bentley or Rolls, I do remember a dealer said that after Chrysler showed them a pic. from the car at Vegas. And about the Magnum the front looks a lot the the MaxxCab, donīt you think?
BTW, I think Chrysler will show us next the "Concorde" and the next "Intrepid", I wonder how they will look like, maybe the Concorde will look like the Airflite
Apr 17, 2003 (9:50 am)
The comments on that Intrepid link page listed above are almost unanimous with most of those here. They don't like the design either. Can all these lovers of the 300M and Intrepid designs be wrong? If I wanted a Buick or boxy re-packaged Mercedes design, I would have bought one back when. I wanted a sporty [hey, I'm only 61], luxurious [leather and heated seats], and attractive car [that I could do exterior mods to]. That was the M, it is definitely not that concept car on points 1 & 3.
Apr 17, 2003 (9:55 am)
I have seen the Chronos in person and it is the most beautiful car I have ever seen! The 300C could not even be considered a distant cousin of the Chronos.
If, indeed, the 300C was inspired by the Chronos, the result is definitely a cruel joke! Jay Leno offered $2,000,000 for the Chronos at the LA Car show earlier this year. I would guess that his offer would be substantially less for the 300C...
Apr 17, 2003 (10:00 am)
Why am I not suprised that this group of 300 owners prefers the one that they own? It's only natural. Objectivity anyone? I like the design but like Blonda said, a billet grill will be a must. This car offers an impressive package and will grow on people. Like Otto said it is no more radical than the original LH. The problem will be competing in a tougher weight class. Our 300 and the LS made headway in the entry-level class so if it's priced right (read under $45,000 loaded), the 300C will sell.
Apr 17, 2003 (11:38 am)
It is not a question of preferring our M's over the new C. Many of us have had our M's for almost 5 years and we were anxious for a new,great offering from DC. That new and great offering was the 300 Hemi C that was supposed to go for $40K, and was never put in production. Then it was supposed to be the Crossfire, but that puppy had the 275 h.p. guts pulled out of it, and had a 3.2 litre 215 h.p. offering from MB put into it instead. What gets the Hemi? Not the Pacifica which needs the power to push 4,700 pounds off the line, or the Crossfire, but the new C which looks like a re-baked MB or Buick. We will get over it, it will just take awhile cause the disappointment is great.
Apr 17, 2003 (11:55 am)
Until they are on the showroom floor, they don't exist. The only truly endearing aspect of this vehicle, in my opinion, is the Hemi V8. But this option is bound to cost dearly and will probably be the pivot for Chrysler inching the price of it's flagship vehicle over the $40M price point. If they can maintain the 3600 weight of the 300M, the Hemi should be a very nice rush. But....the show car is fully fitted and tricked out with low profiles, etc....more practically, I can see this car for sale in smaller tire sizes, with V6's....and....nope, it doesn't cut it. As for the new "chunky" style, while the 300C doesn't make me vomit, the TL concept looks like it might be more livable. If the Hemi is priced reasonably, I could see myself buying this car...but No WAY in the first year of production. Live and learn.
Apr 17, 2003 (12:42 pm)
duke-Are we not allowed to dislike a design? I'll bet you like whatever you drive more than the Pontiac Aztek, correct? Then don't jump on us for liking our cars more than a new model! Do I like my M more than the 300C? Heavens yes! Do I like my M more than the 300 Hemi C Concept car? Nope. I would have traded my M in a minute to pick up that baby! DC screwed up and changed the concept too much.
All-Speaking of the Aztek, it was a radical concept-type car too! Having MB parts in the DC products doesn't make me want one more. I test drove some entry level MB products before I bought the M. I liked the M and the way it handled better than the MB's, so I bought it. Don't forget that the reason DC and MB are combining parts is purely to save money. It's not necessarily better, but it sure as heck is cheaper! Buying in bulk saves money and gives the buyer bargaining power! I wrote a letter to DC expressing my disappointment yesterday and they already had a form letter in place to send out with details of the 300C and apologies that it didn't meet my satisfaction. I guess I wasn't the first one to let them know what I thought. I hope that they sell thousands and thousands of them for Otto and his co-workers sake (Great guys that build FANTASTIC cars!), but I think they would have done FAR better with the 300 Hemi C as opposed to the 300C the debuted.
#23451 of 26385 Car & Truck website
Apr 17, 2003 (2:05 pm)
Did the Car & Truck website go kaput?