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Chrysler 300M, Sedan
#17331 of 26385 PHG vs non-PHG
May 04, 2002 (6:30 pm)
Russ is quite right about the brakes & steering. Chrysler's Product Information sheet for 2001 (my M's year) lists the braking "swept area" as identical for both PHG & nonPHG, although the PHG has front outboard vented discs (as Russ noted). The 2001 300M brochure mentions the PHG having "stiffer calipers", although I find no mention of this in the PI sheet. The PI sheet notes the optional (PHG) steering is "firm-feel power-assisted rack and pinion with enhanced on-center response", while the steering ratio (17.0:1) and steering turns lock-to-lock (3.1) are not noted to differ with the optional PHG.
With regard to the need for winter tires, the ability of the municipal crews to clear the snow in your local area can make a big difference in one's winter driving experience. I have to agree with the previous post that the expense of a set of winter tires should be of minimal concern to those wishing to get the most from their $30K+ automotive investment. Saving those nice stock chrome wheels from the salt and sand of winter driving is another excellent point.
May 04, 2002 (6:32 pm)
Remember I live in Canada the home of the devalued dollar! LOL
I don't think $1000 for good quality winter tires, rims and balancing is exagerated at all. If you wanted to keep an extra set of winter tires mounted on 18" rims it is actually LOW! Last time I looked 18" Chrome rims similar to the Specials sell for $150-$250 each in Canada. Tires approx the same amount.
russklass said he paid $840 US mounted on 16" Alloy rims. $840 US is approx $1300 Canadian!
Its a good thing the auto companies give Canadians a break on the purchase price of new cars. I would hate to have buy cars in Canada in US dollars and figure in the exchange factor!
Many Canadians are snapping up the Ford Thunderbirds up here and then selling them off in the US and making a tidy profit!
May 04, 2002 (6:42 pm)
If I remember correctly here are the part numbers from PTwarehouse:
visor-GLD-05 Black Chrysler lettering on a Gold Background.
visor-SLV-05 Black Chrysler lettering on a flat silver background.
visor-BLK-05 Gold lettering on a black Background.
I quick email to them would confirm this.
#17334 of 26385 A few idle thoughts
May 04, 2002 (7:59 pm)
Definition of investment: use of money to earn income or profit. Comments...buying a new car or new tires and rims is definately not an investment!
I love the look of the tires and rims on all the different 300m's, but replacing them for 6 months of the year with something less appealing...no thanks!...now why didn't DC just put good all season tires on the Special and we would not be having this debate
I could think of a lot of other great uses for $1000-$1500 dollars than storing an extra set of tires and rims in my garage for 6 months.
Saving money by not replacing the OEM tires as often???...now there's a misnomer Try and slip that one by any Accountant. I can hear him saying:
"You did what! you bought an extra set of tires and rims and store them for 6 months and use these other ones for the other 6 months of the year. So instead of spending $1000 every TWO years to replace the originals, you spent an extra $1000 today and spend another $2000 every FOUR years! Are you nuts!"
I really am not trying to make a big deal out of this and please nobody take offense to the above comments, but I really don't agree with having to be forced into buying winter tires if there is no need. The Michelin All Season tires on the non Special 300m's are more than adequate for year round driving as long as you recognize the poor driving conditions that sometimes exist and adjust your driving habits accordingly.
May 04, 2002 (8:34 pm)
Welcome to the site. I can't help you with the nav system, but I think a few have retrofitted a nav system to their cars. I am not aware of one being designed specifically for the M, but others on this site will be able to help you. Did you buy your M new or used? What colour did you get and what equipment comes with the smaller engine? There can't be many M's on the road in your neck of the woods, and it must really be a head turner. If I could offer one suggestion, it would be to remove those big ugly Chrylser decals from the car, if it is a 2002 then you only have the one on the trunk. Good luck with your car, and you'll always be able to get tips from this site.
We may not always agree on some things, but most of us love our M's and the ones that don't have gone to other sites.
#17336 of 26385 Winter tires -redux
May 04, 2002 (10:24 pm)
I don't know that the snow gets any deeper in Alaska, but maybe the road crews sleep a little later. I've driven the AlCan on AWs w/o any difficulty. I can get around almost anywhere in light traffic on AWs, no matter the conditions. But, in any kind of congestion - Juneau only has rush minutes, but its crowded - I'll spend the money for the sipes or studs. I went for cheap alloys for the M, steel wheels and hubcaps for the wife's Sebring. Face it, your car's ugly in winter so it isn't that big a deal. It was only vanity that made me buy the alloys; the steels would have gotten me around just as well.
May 05, 2002 (6:41 am)
Yeah, I remembered that fact after the edit time passed. Although I'd observe that a Z rated tire here in the US goes for around $250 USD so if I was smart I'd buy my tires in Canada! LOL!
As for investments, I'll just say that I agree that buying a car and maintaining it is not an investment. About the only thing that IS is buying a house. The rest of what we spend our money on is for living. The quality of that life is somewhat governed by what we spend it on. How it's spent is a personal value judgment that I decided a long time ago I'd rather make for myself.
May 05, 2002 (7:26 am)
Well said personally I prefer to spend my money on a good bottle of rum, the occasional cigarette and lots of golf.
Time to quite smoking, our government just boosted taxes again we are now paying $9 a pack in the store. As an incentive to quit I will have to convert that to golf terms...Hmmm...$9 thats almost 5 holes of bliss.
Enjoy your sunday.
#17339 of 26385 achance - wintering in San Diego
May 05, 2002 (7:34 am)
Isn't it a crying shame to own a great looking car in a climate like ours...The weather in SD is very stable. Hmmmm Mike do you have any spare rooms for rent
#17340 of 26385 House for Rent
May 05, 2002 (10:36 am)
Come on down! If nothing else you can shack up in the tree fort! I have to say you're right about the weather though. Today it's 70 and sunny. Yesterday it was 70 and sunny. Tomorrow it will be 70 and sunny. Next week....well, you get the idea.