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Chrysler 300M, Sedan
#11155 of 26385 no1trust- PHG & tires
Nov 08, 2001 (1:57 pm)
Before buying my 2001 300M back in May, I extensively test drove 300's both with the PHG and without it over the same roads. No question the non-PHG suspension is a bit more quiet (especially on rougher road surfaces) and a bit softer riding, while the PHG has sharper handling. Also- the non-PHG 300's are limited to 'only' 118 mph top speed due mainly to the tires. I am happy I chose the PHG for my 300 for the handling, but I would never argue with one who prefered the non-PHG better since the handling is outstanding in either version. As an "entry-level" luxury sedan the 300M is among the best, and the luxury group option with its real wood trim gives a most upscale feeling to the interior. It has more interior room and trunk space than any import in this class. Inside and out, it is an artistic and well-balanced sedan which is a pleasure to drive on a daily basis.
BTW- at the risk of commiting heresy on this BB, not all hate those Goodyears. I had over 35K trouble-free miles on the stock Goodyears on the Dodge Intrepid I traded for my 300. My father is quite happy with the Goodyear LS tires on his '99 Chrysler LHS (a close "cousin" of the 300M), and plans to replace them with another set when the time comes. He still has about 5/32nds of tread left at 32K miles of mixed suburban & highway miles. We both regularly rotate and balance our tires, which is key to optimum performance and treadlife in any tire. His LHS has less tire noise than my PHG-equipped 300M with its Michelin Pilot MXM4's, but those Goodyear LS's are NOT performance tires. IMHO they are decent for cruising but do not meet the demands of spirited driving. For that type of driver, I would add Hoosier Tire to the brands already mentioned on this BB as names to consider (although they may not be available in all areas).
#11156 of 26385 Borla (splatt's question)
Nov 08, 2001 (2:31 pm)
I like the Borla. They claim a 16 hp increase with the exhaust and the S&B (K&N type) pleated filter. I don't know if that's accurate, but I felt a pretty substantial increase in responsiveness after the Borla was installed. I'd say I picked up one or two miles per gallon, but I had it installed within a month of buying the car, so I didn't have a very accurate baseline to judge this.
What I didn't like was the drone that accompanied the Borla between about 2100 and 2600 rpm--it really added a lot of cabin noise. I contacted Borla and they sent (free) an annular venturi, which I had tack-welded in the first section of the system. It dramatically reduced the droning sound, though it is still noticeably louder than the stock system. You can install a second venturi, but I didn't feel it was necessary. If I were doing it all again, I'd order the system with one or two venturis already installed. It saves the trouble of having to dismantle the system to install them after the fact. Since the system is stainless steel, not every shop has the capability of doing the welding.
Nov 08, 2001 (2:38 pm)
Just had the dents removed from the roof of my 01M after my garage door attempted to break into my car. It took my guy about 45 mins. to do a fantastic job and then power polished the scratches out and you would not know the difference. I will now order some Zaino and do a number after the new year when the weather changes for the better.
Nov 08, 2001 (4:03 pm)
Are you kidding me?? 150mph..you were being followed by a viper..and you hit 150?? Then what..you shut down, or the car shut down? I'm assuming that the viper would have been able to pass you no problems..!
Nov 08, 2001 (4:35 pm)
Yeah, I'm at 2.5 years and I am getting concerned about the battery as my experience with factory batteries is also bad. I will probably do a preventative replacement before it gets really cold for piece of mind.
Unfortunately, the local Advance Auto Parts, who will replace your battery for you when you buy a replacement, won't do any LH cars. They point to the fine print..."*Most cars".
Oh well, I guess I did not want them removing my front tire in the parking lot anyway.
Nov 08, 2001 (4:44 pm)
You said bad is 2/32 and new is 12/32. 12/32 is about 9.5mm and 2/32 is about 1.6mm, I have 6.5mm to the edge of backing plate left on my front passenger pads. If their reference is the same, then I have about 8/32 left or 60% left. An that is at 39,000 miles. Not too bad.
Does anyone know if the 2/32 is referenced from the edge of the pad to the edge of the backing plate or if it's to a couple of rivets I can't see without taking things apart. I'm thinking these pads are bonded and have no rivets.
#11162 of 26385 Climate Control Prob I saw on another board
Nov 08, 2001 (4:46 pm)
The following is quoted from a post on the 300m-lhs forum at Yahoo Groups
"Thank you to everyone who responded to my post about the failed climate
It took some doing, but the dealer finally fixed it and it now works
What did it take to get it fixed? The dealer's contention was that it was
operator error (in other words, I didn't know how to use it) or that the
expectations for the system were excessive (if you set the sytem on seventy,
its all right if the car is actually fifty inside). They weren't interested
in the cabin temperatures, where it was colder inside than outside on a
fiftty degree day, but vent temperatures. They also said that in auto mode,
there's no telling what temperatures mean, only manual mode can be used to
test the system. And that temperature settings near room temperature are
hard to maintain. So, I bought an indoor/outdoor digital thermometer, set my
system on manual, eighty degrees and put the probe in the vent. Over two
days as the car was used we kept records of the vent temperatures every two
minutes. A real nuisence. After warming up, the temps then erratically
bounced all over the place from fifty one degrees to one hundred and forty
eight. And on a cold morning, the system produced a temperture of fifty five
degrees constant. The chart convinced the dealer that there really was a
problem, they replaced the head unit and now it works fine. And as the for
the argument that the system can't maintain a constant temperature? Now, in
auto mode, seventy two degrees, the inside temperatue in the car hasn't
varied (after warming up) by more than point four degrees. I wish the house
was that comfortable."
#11163 of 26385 San Diego Chrysler dealers
Nov 08, 2001 (5:17 pm)
I'm looking to purchase a new 300M. Anyone have any recommendations / warnings regarding lower left coast Chrysler dealers? Thanks in advance.
Nov 08, 2001 (5:21 pm)
Edward - Not sure where you are, but in San Diego Midway was advertising '01 Ms for $8,000 off MSRP. That's where I got a heck of a deal on mine...just over $5,000 off MSRP in April.
You'll also want to read up on car buying at www.carbuyingtips.com. Helped me and others here a lot.