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You are in the Chrysler 300M
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Chrysler 300M, Sedan
Nov 08, 2001 (11:44 am)
I have 2 300M's (one is my wife's). I have Yokohamas Avid T4's on my 2000, replacing the Goodyears that caused the car to drift to the left and wore prematurely. I got rid of them after a cut couldn't be repaired on one of them.
For my type of driving, I am very satisfied with with the T4's. They are very comparable with the Michelins on my wife's 2001. The T4's are $88 each at tirerack.com and the Michelin's are $137 each. Made my decision easy.
You don't have a choice of tires from Chrysler, but maybe you can work out something with the dealer.
BTW, I am very much like you -- no mods except K&N filter (if that 's really a mod!) and of course Scotian's custom clock face. I love the look of the car, I enjoy driving it and I like the "entry-level" luxury features. But the 300M is really not a performance car, it's an entry level luxury car that performs very well for its class!
Anyway, IMHO it is a great car that I can heartily recommend!
Nov 08, 2001 (1:13 pm)
Well, I don't have the php so 118's the limit - found out the hard way (or would that be considered the easy way - engine shutting down I've seen posted speeds of about 148/149 range for the php package...
Nov 08, 2001 (1:23 pm)
I've never gone near 100 but I think Scotian said a buddy in a Viper paced him one day and he hit 152mph before he shut it down.
Nov 08, 2001 (1:40 pm)
Hey, '99 owners. Please let us know when your batteries start pooping out, and how many miles and months they lasted. Climate extremes will cause some to expire sooner. My experience with Chrysler OEM batteries (and Ford) is that about 2 1/2 years is when minor problems start. Since the M battery is almost inaccessable, a preventative replacement might be the best strategy, if we know what to expect. Please share any experience with the Club.
#11150 of 26385 brake service
Nov 08, 2001 (1:44 pm)
I have my M in for routine service at about 23K miles, and dealer says the front brake pads should be replaced (they say they're worn down to 2/32 from 12/32 new). Seems kinda early to me, but I've probably been harder on them than many drivers are, so I'm OK with new pads. They also recommend, however, that I have the rotors turned. I'm balking at that, since I haven't noticed any braking vibrations or other problems. They say I may get squeal with new pads if I don't turn the rotors. Any comments?
Nov 08, 2001 (1:50 pm)
That was me. 151mph & no more, & not ever again! Way too fast on a road. Track maybe, but not a traveled road.
Nov 08, 2001 (2:00 pm)
Ok I remember a few things when I bought mine. This was over a year ago btw.
The guy at KVR said they had 2 sizes. They told me the smaller ones were for the non php M, the bigger ones were for the PHP M. So I bought the bigger ones. I always though the PHP rotors were bigger. Otto says they are the same size. Just vented different. The ones I got from KVR are the correctly vented ones for the PHP. Which I guess is why KVR lists 2 different rotors. I think they just have the size wrong, & they are the same size, just vented for PHP, & non PHP. When I got mine they were the same size as the stock ones. I'm not sure what the front pads were. I know KVR didn't have the fiber ones back then, so I guess they were just standard Hard pads. These I returned to them. Since I had to put a set on at the time, I got some hard metalic pads from performance friction. I got a refund on the front pads from KVR. If you are really in dought, have them pull up my name JASON TALBOT in FL. I'm sure they have me in their database. Just order the same rotors I did.
Nov 08, 2001 (2:04 pm)
On the brake pads. I had mine inspected at 24K and had 65% left on the front and 75% on the back, but I downshift a lot and don't have the hills of Colorado to deal with. Maybe I would check with another brake place if I were you. I can't believe they would wear that fast. Don't know on the rotors, how much does it cost to turn them? If you could depend on the 5* not to screw it up and it didn't cost an arm and a leg maybe it would be worth it, but with no shimmy I don't understand why it would be necessary. Check out ARC on the net for rotors and brakes.
Nov 08, 2001 (2:44 pm)
I wouldn't turn rotors that aren't warped. They might squeal, but I doubt it. The less material in the rotor, the more susceptible it is to warping. 23K miles is very low mileage for pad life replacement. They should last around 40k miles unless you are really abusing them.
#11155 of 26385 no1trust- PHG & tires
Nov 08, 2001 (2:57 pm)
Before buying my 2001 300M back in May, I extensively test drove 300's both with the PHG and without it over the same roads. No question the non-PHG suspension is a bit more quiet (especially on rougher road surfaces) and a bit softer riding, while the PHG has sharper handling. Also- the non-PHG 300's are limited to 'only' 118 mph top speed due mainly to the tires. I am happy I chose the PHG for my 300 for the handling, but I would never argue with one who prefered the non-PHG better since the handling is outstanding in either version. As an "entry-level" luxury sedan the 300M is among the best, and the luxury group option with its real wood trim gives a most upscale feeling to the interior. It has more interior room and trunk space than any import in this class. Inside and out, it is an artistic and well-balanced sedan which is a pleasure to drive on a daily basis.
BTW- at the risk of commiting heresy on this BB, not all hate those Goodyears. I had over 35K trouble-free miles on the stock Goodyears on the Dodge Intrepid I traded for my 300. My father is quite happy with the Goodyear LS tires on his '99 Chrysler LHS (a close "cousin" of the 300M), and plans to replace them with another set when the time comes. He still has about 5/32nds of tread left at 32K miles of mixed suburban & highway miles. We both regularly rotate and balance our tires, which is key to optimum performance and treadlife in any tire. His LHS has less tire noise than my PHG-equipped 300M with its Michelin Pilot MXM4's, but those Goodyear LS's are NOT performance tires. IMHO they are decent for cruising but do not meet the demands of spirited driving. For that type of driver, I would add Hoosier Tire to the brands already mentioned on this BB as names to consider (although they may not be available in all areas).