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#4162 of 15392 re Actually by nosho Aug 08, 2001 (6:15 pm)
IMHO I don't think many (if any) of us here are looking at other manufacturer's car and saying we need more horse power because they have more HP.   I now drive an A6-2.7T manual. I find that if anything, its acceleration is mild over-kill. So I'm not looking for more HP in my commuter car. Frankly, a non-heroic mid 6 seconds 0-60 would be just fine for me. Close to 8 seconds is intolerable for the aggressive commuter traffic that I have to deal with.   The V8 has been hobbled for some time (years) now by the tranny. With the present flash load, it supposedly does 0-60 in 7.2 seconds. But a taller 1st gear (4.40) would give 6.5 second times (and better launch "feel") without affecting gas mileage. But the tranny probably doesn't have the real estate for a taller gear and "1st" is really 1st and 4th(?) so it would effect gas mileage....   For the V6, the weight of the car really requires a 3.2L engine (with VVT). Barring that, then a super-/turbo-charger is needed, which is starting to look very unlikely given the years that are going by without it.   With the new competition coming on line, the LS is going to see sales fall which makes upgrades even more difficult. Just consider the youngish former "pony" owners looking for a 4-door family sedan. Hmmm, a Maxima with 260HP or the I35 or ..., doesn't look good for the LS.   It's sad, because it has race car handling but the anemic performance makes it a no option car given its supposed market segment. Also, its "harsh" ride and "cramped" interior doesn't fit the standard Lincoln market so little help from the traditional buyer. Which means the LS could very easily be killed off by marketing.   Sad....
#4163 of 15392 Dash by rec3 Aug 08, 2001 (6:15 pm)
The top of my light grey dash looks blotchy with different gloss in spots. The LS is only two months old and I have not used any cleaners or treatment liquids yet because I do not want a shine. Has any one else noticed this on their dash? Is there a good cleaner or protectorant liguid that will give a uniform look without a shine?
#4164 of 15392 2002 and also slunar by ls1bmw0 Aug 08, 2001 (6:16 pm)
Forget about changes being made to the 2002 models. You are wasting your breath. The car has been put to bed since December of last year. Fact of life. Changes are occuring for the 2003 model based on feedback that has been provided.   slunar: I suspect the only way Lincoln was able to justify the LS was to use the engines that were available with the Jag with less-exotic components. I also agree with lolaj42. I would modify any car I owned no matter what it was, just because that's the way I am. There are quite a few people that feel the same way. Ergo, the market for Hennessy Vipers, Saleen Mustangs, etc.   I'm also slightly more old-fashioned. All things being equal, I'd rather have a good old American V-8 with a lot of torque and horsepower instead of all this high-tech VVT, supercharger stuff that's just dying to break the first time you get out of the big city and are stuck in Watumwah, Iowa, or where Radar was from.   Don't know why Lincoln had to play second-fiddle to Jag. In my opinion the LS is much better in the enthusiast arena, while the Jag is better in the stiff upper lip field. Jag has the upper hand in the fit-and-finish area but since it cost about 10 grand more I would expect it too. Granted considering the price of the LS the quality should have been better, but I'm still pretty enthusiastic about the value and fun quotient of my car.
#4165 of 15392 Dashboard splotches... by joe166 Aug 08, 2001 (6:21 pm)
I remember reading a note on this. If I remember correctly, there was a problem with some dashboards and the remedy was to use some form of cleaner (it was specified) and then apply some moisturizer. I don't remember where I read this, but perhaps in the LS Owners club or in a list of TSB's to dealers. If you can't find the actual directions, I would try a very good quality vinyl cleaner followed by a good quality vinyl dressing. I had a similar problem, used Vinylex and it cleared it up, but I did read the directions to dealers somewhere.
#4166 of 15392 L/M Pres. Memo: by buckwheat Aug 08, 2001 (6:23 pm)
A discourse by Mark Hutchins to dealerships with a repetitious theme on American Luxury, Lincoln Premier Experience, Lincoln vision in re-defining promises of American Luxury to its customers. Short of importuning dealers, implementation of this strategy appears to be failing. http://www.bonforums.com/memos/memo_hutchins080101.htm
#4167 of 15392 RE: klarson1 - Window Regulators by sniemietz Aug 08, 2001 (6:27 pm)
Your dealer must be right. My rear window failed a second time about 2 weeks ago. I called the service manager and he basically told me the same thing, alot of the cars are coming back for regulators and the part is on back-order. I told him mine were in the "up" position so I could wait until the part arrived. If I were you I would chew some butt out and have your dealer at least put the window up.n
#4168 of 15392 Radar (to ls1bmw0, #4050) by giowa Aug 08, 2001 (7:07 pm)
Been years since I watched MASH re-runs but I believe Radar O'Reilley's home was Ottumwa, Iowa, about 65 miles diagonally SE of Des Moines, Iowa. (But then again, maybe it was either Oskaloosa or Osceola; both are also in the general vicinity.)   Wonder how bleak '02 will be for Lincoln. Navigator has fallen way behind Cadillac's gigantic SUV. Continental is dead. LS running on minor changes, if any. Blackwood a real odd niche market. Someone at Lincoln should be shot and sent to the Eastern Front!
#4169 of 15392 L/M Pres. Memo by ezaircon4jc Aug 08, 2001 (7:11 pm)
Blah, Blah, Blah........ As a gomint employee, this sure sounds like governmentese to me!
#4170 of 15392 Lincoln Wins Satisfaction Award? by karzz Aug 08, 2001 (7:28 pm)
Interesting to see that the Navigator beat out 79 other SUVs and trucks to take top honors in both the top SUV and top Truck categories. A Lincoln tops in product quality and customer handling? a Lincoln beating Mercedes, Lexus and BMW?....how can this possibly be?   08 August 2001            Lincoln Navigator Wins Satisfaction Award--Today AutoPacific presented the Lincoln Navigator with it's top award for Satisfaction in both the SUV and Total Truck categories. Auto Pacific sends surveys to all new vehicle customers who purchased during September through November of last year. The criteria is based on 1) product quality, 2) salesperson knowledge and 3) customer handling. Navigator competed against 79 other trucks, and our customers honored us with the highest rating beating out even newer entrants like BMW X5, Acura MDX and Lexus RX300.
#4171 of 15392 Dashboard splotches and other things by leadfoot4 Aug 09, 2001 (2:21 am)
I seem to remember the dashboard issue was mentioned a few months ago. The product that was recommended was "Black Magic" preservative, which is made by Westleys.  I got the latest issue of Car&Driver magazine in the mail yesterday. In this issue is a short review of the new, "Butt-Fugly" Cadillac CTS. The car is very humble looking, but guess what ??? A five speed manual transmission is available. I guess the market isn't dead after all.  One other thought regarding HP. I too, will always be tinkering with my rides, looking to make them a little better. Just look at the aftermarket that's out there for GM's two most famous "orphans", the Buick GN and the Impala SS. If there weren't "gearheads" out here buying the parts, I doubt there would be such a large number of companies willing to supply the goodies.  Over and out...........

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