You are here: Forums Sedans Lincoln LS Lincoln LS

Lincoln LS

15392 messages,  Last post on Oct 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM

You are in the Lincoln LS Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Lincoln LS, Sedan

Messages Page 417 of 1540 1 ... 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 ... 1540 Prev Next Last

Go To Msg # Search This Discussion

#4158 of 15392 Another look at HP by slunar Aug 08, 2001 (4:53 pm)
Here's a question for you avid LS fans. Since Ford and the people at Jaguar don't want the real Jag. engines in the LS or other Ford cars, I'm wondering if LS buyers would have been happy with this solution. What if the LS came with VVT head engines almost like the Jag engines but they were lower compression so they had a bit less HP & torque than the Jag? I'd guess that at 9.5:1 on 87 octane the 3.0 would have 230 HP and the V8 275 HP. I'd also guess that the gas mileage would be similar to current LS engines and the VVT engines would add about $250 to the MSRP. It's kind of late now but just imagine if that's how the LS came in June 1999.
#4159 of 15392 slunar/VVT by brucelinc Aug 08, 2001 (5:10 pm)
I wouldn't be happy with your solution. The Jag isn't quick enough, either. 0-60 takes about 7.0 with VVT and the 3.31 gear. The LS needs to do better than that.   The best solution for me would be to forget about this "We can't have a Lincoln faster than a Jag" mentality and bump them both to about 4.3 liters, add VVT to the LS, and continue development in induction, exhaust, and driveline areas for both. My guess is that Jag buyers would still buy Jags. I doubt if many are running out buying Town Cars because it has a 4.6.
#4160 of 15392 Giowa: Point Proven ? . . . Perhaps by lolaj42 Aug 08, 2001 (5:13 pm)
I haven't owned a car yet that I didn't think could be made better/faster! The cost of a Borla Cat back sys and MAF sensor should cost less than $1K and provide a more visceral sound as well as performance. I don't think, nor have I stated that Lincoln should stand still . . . they must continue to improve the car. Either way, I don't expect to be back in the market until at least the MY05, so how Lincoln actually improves the LS in the mean time is rather inconsequential to me.   I would, however, find it gratifying if Lincoln continued to keep the LS in limelight by staying a step ahead of the competition, but they're not running as fast a product development cycle as their competitors. Some things change slowly. Hopefully F/L/M can step up to the plate on at least a few models in the near future. We'll soon see, as I'm sure we'll be treated to the same sort of information Brain was sworn not to divulge once LLSOC members get to Wixom. While Lincoln may not make several "small" changes each year, I think F/L/M is prepared to make "big" changes that ultimately leap frog their competitors once they get around to it. Only time will tell.
#4161 of 15392 Another Synergy error by ezaircon4jc Aug 08, 2001 (6:02 pm)
In the same comparo the weight distrubition for the LS said 52/48. Isn't that the V8? Also, isn't the manual lighter than the auto so the w/d would be VERY close to 50/50? Other than that.....FANTASTIC job, Brian and Ray (you too Debbie!). This is a very professional publication! I can't wait for the next issue! Loved the "Follow the leader" pic I, too, find it hard to drive and stare at the car at the same time! Keep up the good work Brian and take a few days off! I'm sure your dear wife has some honey do's for you!
#4162 of 15392 re Actually by nosho Aug 08, 2001 (6:15 pm)
IMHO I don't think many (if any) of us here are looking at other manufacturer's car and saying we need more horse power because they have more HP.   I now drive an A6-2.7T manual. I find that if anything, its acceleration is mild over-kill. So I'm not looking for more HP in my commuter car. Frankly, a non-heroic mid 6 seconds 0-60 would be just fine for me. Close to 8 seconds is intolerable for the aggressive commuter traffic that I have to deal with.   The V8 has been hobbled for some time (years) now by the tranny. With the present flash load, it supposedly does 0-60 in 7.2 seconds. But a taller 1st gear (4.40) would give 6.5 second times (and better launch "feel") without affecting gas mileage. But the tranny probably doesn't have the real estate for a taller gear and "1st" is really 1st and 4th(?) so it would effect gas mileage....   For the V6, the weight of the car really requires a 3.2L engine (with VVT). Barring that, then a super-/turbo-charger is needed, which is starting to look very unlikely given the years that are going by without it.   With the new competition coming on line, the LS is going to see sales fall which makes upgrades even more difficult. Just consider the youngish former "pony" owners looking for a 4-door family sedan. Hmmm, a Maxima with 260HP or the I35 or ..., doesn't look good for the LS.   It's sad, because it has race car handling but the anemic performance makes it a no option car given its supposed market segment. Also, its "harsh" ride and "cramped" interior doesn't fit the standard Lincoln market so little help from the traditional buyer. Which means the LS could very easily be killed off by marketing.   Sad....
#4163 of 15392 Dash by rec3 Aug 08, 2001 (6:15 pm)
The top of my light grey dash looks blotchy with different gloss in spots. The LS is only two months old and I have not used any cleaners or treatment liquids yet because I do not want a shine. Has any one else noticed this on their dash? Is there a good cleaner or protectorant liguid that will give a uniform look without a shine?
#4164 of 15392 2002 and also slunar by ls1bmw0 Aug 08, 2001 (6:16 pm)
Forget about changes being made to the 2002 models. You are wasting your breath. The car has been put to bed since December of last year. Fact of life. Changes are occuring for the 2003 model based on feedback that has been provided.   slunar: I suspect the only way Lincoln was able to justify the LS was to use the engines that were available with the Jag with less-exotic components. I also agree with lolaj42. I would modify any car I owned no matter what it was, just because that's the way I am. There are quite a few people that feel the same way. Ergo, the market for Hennessy Vipers, Saleen Mustangs, etc.   I'm also slightly more old-fashioned. All things being equal, I'd rather have a good old American V-8 with a lot of torque and horsepower instead of all this high-tech VVT, supercharger stuff that's just dying to break the first time you get out of the big city and are stuck in Watumwah, Iowa, or where Radar was from.   Don't know why Lincoln had to play second-fiddle to Jag. In my opinion the LS is much better in the enthusiast arena, while the Jag is better in the stiff upper lip field. Jag has the upper hand in the fit-and-finish area but since it cost about 10 grand more I would expect it too. Granted considering the price of the LS the quality should have been better, but I'm still pretty enthusiastic about the value and fun quotient of my car.
#4165 of 15392 Dashboard splotches... by joe166 Aug 08, 2001 (6:21 pm)
I remember reading a note on this. If I remember correctly, there was a problem with some dashboards and the remedy was to use some form of cleaner (it was specified) and then apply some moisturizer. I don't remember where I read this, but perhaps in the LS Owners club or in a list of TSB's to dealers. If you can't find the actual directions, I would try a very good quality vinyl cleaner followed by a good quality vinyl dressing. I had a similar problem, used Vinylex and it cleared it up, but I did read the directions to dealers somewhere.
#4166 of 15392 L/M Pres. Memo: by buckwheat Aug 08, 2001 (6:23 pm)
A discourse by Mark Hutchins to dealerships with a repetitious theme on American Luxury, Lincoln Premier Experience, Lincoln vision in re-defining promises of American Luxury to its customers. Short of importuning dealers, implementation of this strategy appears to be failing. http://www.bonforums.com/memos/memo_hutchins080101.htm
#4167 of 15392 RE: klarson1 - Window Regulators by sniemietz Aug 08, 2001 (6:27 pm)
Your dealer must be right. My rear window failed a second time about 2 weeks ago. I called the service manager and he basically told me the same thing, alot of the cars are coming back for regulators and the part is on back-order. I told him mine were in the "up" position so I could wait until the part arrived. If I were you I would chew some butt out and have your dealer at least put the window up.n

Messages Page 417 of 1540 1 ... 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 ... 1540 Prev Next Last

Go To Msg # Search This Discussion

You are here: Forums Sedans Lincoln LS Lincoln LS