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#4147 of 15392 what next by klarson1 Aug 08, 2001 (10:45 am)
Called the dealer about the window crash... "bring it in... you wont need a loaner it will only take an hour or 2 to fix it." Well today after sitting in the dealership for 2.5 hours I'm called to the cashier.... car's ready Get to the cashier and..."oh sir that part is backordered.. we'll call you when it comes in." Go to see the service writer and ask him if there is someway they can get the window closed and lock it in place.." no way.. the regulators broken" Well I say how do I keep the rain out? " a plastic bag and duct tape works pretty well" he says How long before the part comes in? " don't know could be weeks" he says needless to say after the second window crash and no end in site. Not to mention the score of other problems. I wish I had just bought a cheap used honda accord...and invested my money in technology stocks... the return would have been much higher... By the way the lot was full of used ( I counted 8) 2000 v8's mostly loaded...for less than 28K list   Kevin  Charter member of the Licoln LS owners Club. At least the Magazine and hat were great. good work Brian
#4148 of 15392 Error in Synergy Article? by akirby Aug 08, 2001 (11:59 am)
In the LS V6 - BMW 525i article, page 24, tale of the tape:   It lists a manual transmission for the LS but a 3.58 rear axle. I believe the manual comes with a 3.07 and the automatic has the 3.58. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
#4149 of 15392 Shocks by akirby Aug 08, 2001 (12:28 pm)
Anybody try a set of Bilstein shocks? John Colletti (Mr. SVT) put Bilsteins on the latest Lightning pickups. He found that they increased the ride quality but did not give up anything in handling. Just curious what effect they would have on the LS. (and I don't need the 24-position adjustable racing shocks).
#4150 of 15392 Akirby by stanny1 Aug 08, 2001 (12:33 pm)
You are correct. The V6 Manual has a 3:07. The V6 Auto is 3:58. The Manual NEEDS the 3:58, but without an overdrive fifth, you'd be pushing 3500 rpm at 75 mph (estimated).
#4151 of 15392 What's Next? by stanny1 Aug 08, 2001 (12:52 pm)
Klarson - get rid of that dealer! He has little imagination or is lazy. Go up to pictures on the LLSOC web site. I took the window pics and I drove around for two months with my windows "locked up". Pull off the door panel (see instructions in the speaker replacement how-to's). You will see that the window glass is attached to a black trolley with a plastic "plug". Either your plastic plug popped out or more likely the cable is all messed up (the explosion in the speghetti factory syndrome). You can always silicone seal the plastic plug in but if the cable is loose, just ignore it and head for the black plastic trolley that rides with the window up and down the galvanized metal "rail" or "track". Ignore the cable and push the window with trolley up until the glass is all the way up (window closed). The goal here is to do something so the trolley can't slide down the rail/track. My solution was to drill a small hole in the edge of the rail and stick a cotter pin through the hole, thus preventing the trolley/window from falling down the rail. Easy. If you don't have a cotter pin, use a sheet metal screw. Just "jam it up". The dealer is going to trash the whole assembly anyway. The window debacle is supposed to be long over. The parts should be in stock. My only guess is that the dealers don't see the problem anymore.
#4152 of 15392 Window by thomas_l Aug 08, 2001 (12:57 pm)
When I worked on cars for a living, we would just wedge a piece of wood under the glass (to the bottom of the door). If/when my windows do that, I will rig mine up before I get stuck in a rent-a-Focus - even waiting on parts for a day.   I agree with stanny - can that loser of a dealer!
#4153 of 15392 Windows - Crude but Effective by cdnpinhead Aug 08, 2001 (1:51 pm)
When my right rear window took the dive we all knew it would (months ago), I was able to use the control to crutch it back into the fully closed position. My plan was to gather all the things I need looked after at once, then do my "dealer visit." In the meantime, I just didn't use the RR window.   The fly in the ointment was that I didn't inform my wife that my (moderately) high-dollar "sport sedan" didn't really work completely, so when I was on a trip to Europe a couple of weeks ago, she assumed that all the windows worked (silly person).   Net result was that the RR window was down, and wasn't coming/staying up for anything. Here's where the 2" box tape comes in. Placed carefully, a couple of 12 - 18" long strips of tape on the outside of the window will hold it up in the AZ heat. Looks like s&%#, but perhaps that's appropriate. It does work, as does most of the rest of the car, and I don't have to pull the door panel to Mickey-Mouse an internal fix.
#4154 of 15392 More on "enough horsepower" by slunar Aug 08, 2001 (1:51 pm)
If the Duratech 3.0 and 3.9 V8 were both brand new engines I wouldn't be so hard on Ford. However, since there are VVT head versions of both in the Ford Corporate parts bin (Jag) I won't cut the Lincoln product planners any slack here. They screwed up with their marketing plan to try to get most LS customers to buy V8's. If the V6 had 240 HP like the S-type I most likely would have got the V6. The strategy looks sucessful since 80% of LS's sold are V8's. However, this short sighted strategy ignores how much better the car rag. reviews of the LS would have been if it had higher HP and better 0-60 times out of the gate and also leaves us to speculate how much better LS sales could have been given higher HP and better reviews.
#4155 of 15392 window fix by klarson1 Aug 08, 2001 (2:16 pm)
thanks for all the suggestions. Being mechanically challenged. I have taped the window up using duct tape 3 times now. 18 inch strips across the top as suggested. The problem is when sitting in the sun at work it gets so hot that the adhesive lets go. I havent tried the box tape yet which might be a little stronger. I'll give that a try. and you are right it really looks like crap. I tried taking the door panel off once before but I dont have the tools required to get at the little screws under the plastic tab inside the door handle. As for the dealer I know I need to scrap him for sure, its just I bought the car there and a good dealer is not in the area unless I travel to Dulaney vally thanks   oh one last thing Stanny... from what I understand the part is a nationwide back order. meaning they can't get the parts fast enough. My quess the problem is accellerating faster than the V8 Auto with a supercharger. Kevin
#4156 of 15392 Bilstein Shocks by ls1bmw0 Aug 08, 2001 (2:36 pm)
Good luck at finding them for the LS. When I checked a couple of months ago, the answer was "Don't have them, don't know when or if we're going to make them".

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