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#4142 of 15392 RE: HP by frhill Aug 08, 2001 (4:57 am)
I bought my 2000 LS sport because it 1) fit my budget, 2) has 32valve V8, 3) Is rear wheel drive, 4) Its suspension was inspired by CART and F1, 5) has a gorgeous exterior and interior.   I was definitely disappointed with acceleration figures when they were published. I don't have to out gun 540's or GS430's, but I would definitely like mid 6 second 0-60 a mid to low 14second quarter mile. With the resources the Ford has I wouldn't think this would be impossible.   In terms of day to day driving, the power is more then adequate. But occasionally, I would like to break loose the rear wheels like was able to do with my ’87 5.0 mustang. The car seems sluggish in the 20-40 mph acceleration range, then seems to pick up. At highway speeds (65+), it’s explosive.
#4143 of 15392 groupthink - giowa by thomas_l Aug 08, 2001 (5:43 am)
When I say "adequate" the phrase "exceeds my expectations" defines my thought process. I also have a bad habit of understating things. When my lease is up early '03 I will probably not get another LS mainly because I am not happy with the value (overall value not just resale or price value) of the one I currently drive. (Nomex ON) I am not saying that I dislike the car. I really enjoy driving it and truly appreciate all the positives. Just not enough to pony up for another one.   More power is not necessarily the deal maker for me. I am more pleased with the build quality, performance, and value of my wife's '01 Mercedes C240 that cost $6,000 less than my '00 LS and it has 100hp less than the Lincoln! Not to mention the fact that the MB resale has dropped less than 10% since new. In the same time period (just under a year) my LS resale dropped 25% and is falling like a stone. I expect to see my LS at or below the residual price a full year ahead of lease end (36 mo term).
#4144 of 15392 More HP . . . by lolaj42 Aug 08, 2001 (6:43 am)
I guess some folks on this board care, but I, for one, am not concerned for the next few model years. I own my LS8 outright, and do not intend to part with it for a few years yet. I've always purchased my cars, and keep them 6 years on average. Currently, I see no reason to depart from my past record, as I truly love my LS! This was the right car for me that came along at the right time. I WILL try to improve the performance of this car through bolt-ons (Borla, MAF, air box, wheels/tires) but, barring any wrecks or other major trouble, I'm quite satisfied. I may salivate and get jealous when the MY03 hits the streets, but, I'll wait. It takes a really special new car to make me part with my current ride. My last two primary rides ('90 Nissan 300ZX and '00 LS8 Sport) happened to garner the Motor Trend Car of the Year award (earned AFTER I made my purchase). It's funny, when this "special vehicle" hits the Auto show circuit, I get hit with this bolt of lightning and its love at first sight. The effect still hasn't worn off as far the LS is concerned.
#4145 of 15392 Lincoln Synergy by ls1bmw0 Aug 08, 2001 (8:55 am)
I've put the magazine online so you can brag to your less fortunate car club buddies about it!   The order form for wearabLS is also online as part of the magazine so you won't have to cut up your copy of the magazine if you want to order stuff.   giowa: Thanks for your comments on the mag. from a previous post. Didn't get a chance to say that yet. Also, yes the membership number, if you disregard the 10100 in the front signifies the number of where you came in to the club. The lower the number the earlier you joined.   Brian
#4146 of 15392 HP/frhill by brucelinc Aug 08, 2001 (10:09 am)
I think your mid 6 second 0 - 60 and mid 14 second quarter miles times are reasonable expectations in the not-to-distant future. It is going to take more than VVT to do it, though. I would like to see a displacement increase. A supercharger on the current engine should also do the trick. The current set-up is a little weak under 3500 RPM.   Frhill, I assume you have the 3.31 gear. I have the 3.58 and my analysis of the acceleration is a little different than yours. Mine is a bit of a dog off the line but 20 - 40 is like a rocket. Since the tranny reflash, I get a tire chirp on the 1-2 shift but the ratio is so close to 1st, I have to shift again around 55. Then it seems a little weak until 65 or so.   Funny how "feel" and "memories" and "reality" sometimes conflict. When I had a T-Bird SC in 1990, it was the quickest thing in it's class. My memory of it is that it was a rocket in every speed range. 315 lbs/ft of torque felt really good! The acceleration numbers, though, were very similar to a current LS V8.
#4147 of 15392 what next by klarson1 Aug 08, 2001 (10:45 am)
Called the dealer about the window crash... "bring it in... you wont need a loaner it will only take an hour or 2 to fix it." Well today after sitting in the dealership for 2.5 hours I'm called to the cashier.... car's ready Get to the cashier and..."oh sir that part is backordered.. we'll call you when it comes in." Go to see the service writer and ask him if there is someway they can get the window closed and lock it in place.." no way.. the regulators broken" Well I say how do I keep the rain out? " a plastic bag and duct tape works pretty well" he says How long before the part comes in? " don't know could be weeks" he says needless to say after the second window crash and no end in site. Not to mention the score of other problems. I wish I had just bought a cheap used honda accord...and invested my money in technology stocks... the return would have been much higher... By the way the lot was full of used ( I counted 8) 2000 v8's mostly loaded...for less than 28K list   Kevin  Charter member of the Licoln LS owners Club. At least the Magazine and hat were great. good work Brian
#4148 of 15392 Error in Synergy Article? by akirby Aug 08, 2001 (11:59 am)
In the LS V6 - BMW 525i article, page 24, tale of the tape:   It lists a manual transmission for the LS but a 3.58 rear axle. I believe the manual comes with a 3.07 and the automatic has the 3.58. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
#4149 of 15392 Shocks by akirby Aug 08, 2001 (12:28 pm)
Anybody try a set of Bilstein shocks? John Colletti (Mr. SVT) put Bilsteins on the latest Lightning pickups. He found that they increased the ride quality but did not give up anything in handling. Just curious what effect they would have on the LS. (and I don't need the 24-position adjustable racing shocks).
#4150 of 15392 Akirby by stanny1 Aug 08, 2001 (12:33 pm)
You are correct. The V6 Manual has a 3:07. The V6 Auto is 3:58. The Manual NEEDS the 3:58, but without an overdrive fifth, you'd be pushing 3500 rpm at 75 mph (estimated).
#4151 of 15392 What's Next? by stanny1 Aug 08, 2001 (12:52 pm)
Klarson - get rid of that dealer! He has little imagination or is lazy. Go up to pictures on the LLSOC web site. I took the window pics and I drove around for two months with my windows "locked up". Pull off the door panel (see instructions in the speaker replacement how-to's). You will see that the window glass is attached to a black trolley with a plastic "plug". Either your plastic plug popped out or more likely the cable is all messed up (the explosion in the speghetti factory syndrome). You can always silicone seal the plastic plug in but if the cable is loose, just ignore it and head for the black plastic trolley that rides with the window up and down the galvanized metal "rail" or "track". Ignore the cable and push the window with trolley up until the glass is all the way up (window closed). The goal here is to do something so the trolley can't slide down the rail/track. My solution was to drill a small hole in the edge of the rail and stick a cotter pin through the hole, thus preventing the trolley/window from falling down the rail. Easy. If you don't have a cotter pin, use a sheet metal screw. Just "jam it up". The dealer is going to trash the whole assembly anyway. The window debacle is supposed to be long over. The parts should be in stock. My only guess is that the dealers don't see the problem anymore.

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