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#4108 of 15392 First scratch hurts the most by fantom Aug 06, 2001 (6:07 pm)
After eight months and 10,000 miles of care free driving somebody finally gave my LS it's first parking lot tattoo. A 5 inch by 1/8 inch gouge in the rear bumper just below the license plate-ouch!   Anyone have advise or experience on techniques for either touching up or repainting the rear bumper? The car is light parchment gold and I'm taking it relatively well, all things considered. Thanks for any suggestions.
#4109 of 15392 Touch-Up by stanny1 Aug 06, 2001 (6:20 pm)
Fantom - Don't waste your time with the "one bottle" approach. The factory stuff just doesn't cut if you have a color like my Pearl. Go to www.paintscratch.com and do it right. It's really a multi-step approach.
#4110 of 15392 Notes on Dearborn-3991 by drolds1 Aug 06, 2001 (6:47 pm)
Thanks for the report, Brian. It sounds exciting and verfies what Jim Rogers posted a while back re the future of the LS. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall!   Artie-counting the days to LS Mania2.
#4111 of 15392 Giowa re. Fuel mileage by lolaj42 Aug 06, 2001 (6:49 pm)
Have you noticed any difference in fuel economy between the ethanol and "normal" blends? Do you nearly empty a tank of one type of fuel before refilling with the other? Out here in Arizona, I usually see about a 1 to 2 mpg difference between the oxygenated and "normal" blends, with the normal blend providing improved economy. I can't say that I notice any difference in how the engine responds to throttle inputs or smoothness when burning either type. I think all auto makers tune their engines to accept all blends authorized for sale in the US.
#4112 of 15392 Fuel Blends by sclark8 Aug 07, 2001 (5:40 am)
I used to live in Wyoming where they had no additives. I averaged 16-18 mpg using their gas in my 89 Suburban.   When I moved back to California, the land of cancerous MTBE, I noticed a severe drop in mileage and power. I averaged 12-15. My 94 Mustang Cobra exhibited a similar drop.   They used to sell ethanol here in the post gas crisis 1970 s. I did not notice a drop in economy with ethanol.
#4113 of 15392 Victim of the HP race? by thomas_l Aug 07, 2001 (8:55 am)
I too am looking forward to the next few years to see how the HP race unfolds for all cars. Not to mention what the tentative limits will be with respect to product safety/liability. The '02 MB line-up will include an AMG version of my wife's really tame (C240 w/150-something hp) C-32 sporting a 3.2L supercharged 349hp! With the horsepower ratings pushing the 400 mark, I wonder how far it will go? And we're not talking 60's muscle cars - these are 4-door sedans, even big ones. Same thing with trucks. My Dad just upgraded his 10 year old Chevy 1-ton low rider with an '01 3500HD equipped with 8.1L gas engine and 5-sp Allison automatic.
#4114 of 15392 Horsepower question by ls1bmw0 Aug 07, 2001 (9:02 am)
This might start a rather bizarre discussion but I'm curious. Why are horsepower numbers so important to us? If a car has adequate power to safely negotiateany situation, e.g. overtaking, merging, etc., why do we crave more horsepower? Is it just bragging rights that make us want more power than the competition? I don't think there are that many of us that floor it all the time from one stoplight to the next, so why sweat a .5 second difference in 0-60mph?   Not attempting to start fights, since I'm one of the ones who has always believed in the Tim Taylor philosophy of more power, but it is an interesting paradigm, especially since we seem to be in the middle of a horsepower war.   Brian
#4115 of 15392 HP Wars by lolaj42 Aug 07, 2001 (9:27 am)
My LS8 has more power than any car I have previously owned. That said, it is not the fastest I've ever owned. My normally aspirated '90 300ZX (222 hp) was slightly quicker to 60, and more easily attained its top speed of 140+ than my LS. I have not yet owned a car that I feel I cannot take full advantage of yet (i.e., I have found limitations every car I've owned thus far), so I'm not sure where I would "draw the line". At some point, I'm sure I would find a really scary car, I just haven't gotten there yet! I would enjoy, and use, better 0-60 sprints than the LS8 currently offers if it were offered in my price range. I'm confident that I would be able and willing to utilize a car capable of sprinting to 60 in the high 5 to low 6-second range. Of course, I'd also expect a similar advantage in the 60-100 mph range as well. I haven't given much thought to capabilities beyond that level of performance, mainly because it would probably become too cost prohibitive.
#4116 of 15392 More on HP by ezaircon4jc Aug 07, 2001 (9:58 am)
I think we're missing the REALLY important thing. HP is not the driving force (pun sorta intended). Torque is WAY more important. My 3.8L Sable had only 140ish hp but 215ftlb of torque! That car taught me about torque steer in a FWD. If you launched at half throttle or greater you had better hold on to the wheel or you would make a hard right turn! My Duratec Sable with 60 more horse but 15 fewer ftlb of torque doesn't have the torque steer that 3.8L had!   It's about the torque. Give me torque anyday!
#4117 of 15392 HP wars by brucelinc Aug 07, 2001 (10:21 am)
From a practical standpoint: Here in Minneapolis, we have metered freeway on-ramps. You start from a dead stop and merge into a 60-65 MPH freeway while attempting not to disrupt the oncoming traffic. WOT is not needed in my LS V8 but I frequently use 90% of it's capability. The fairly strong acceleration without torque-braking or high RPM shifts is handy. You get the job done with no fuss or fanfare and without drawing unwanted attention. In addition to the freeways, our two-lanes are busier than ever and passing areas are less frequent. Quick 50 - 70 acceleration is quite useful.   Having rationalized my need for speed, I would still want more even if I didn't need it. When I get a new car, I expect most aspects to be an improvement over my previous vehicle. Performance is a key aspect for me. Also, I expect any car I own to accelerate competitively with others in it's intended market.

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