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#3 of 15392 Anyone Who Defies the Legal Department. . . by cdnpinhead Jan 15, 2001 (6:57 pm)
is our kind of guy!   To echo Stanny's comment, thanks again for being a paragon of "out-of-the-boxism" (pardon the sports-writer word inventing )in the automotive world. Any number of corporations yap about "out of the box thinking", but very few actually tolerate, let alone encourage it.   The LS program seems to cultivate it. Where do I sign?
#4 of 15392 Subscribers... by akirby Jan 15, 2001 (6:59 pm)
Don't forget you have to resubscribe to this new topic.
#5 of 15392 LS Brakes by swauger Jan 15, 2001 (9:04 pm)
Some talk about brake feel, being kind of spungy and soft, on the V8 Sport as opposed to the V6. Never having driven a V6, I can't comment about that. The pedal on my V8 Sport is a tad soft, nowhere near as bad as my SHO was, but easy to get used to and easy to modulate. I can cast no stones at the performance of the brakes, as proven yesterday when I was motoring down the interstate when the lane I was in decided to come to a complete stop because someone decided to make a rapid turn into the median for some reason. I was caught with little time to stop from 80. Fortunately I wasn't tailgating this time, but the LS hauled it down rapidly with no fuss and fine brake feel when you get past the first part of the pedal travel. Honestly, it stopped so quickly I stopped way short of the car in front, farther back than I thought I would. No dive or body motion, perfect balance.   Congrats and thanks to the Lincoln brake engineering dept! Replies to this message: ntec (Apr 28, 2004 9:27 am)
#6 of 15392 Response to Carqwik, Post 1215, Part 12 - Phoenix Maintenance by lolaj42 Jan 15, 2001 (9:25 pm)
I have used the dealer where I purchased my LS8 sport ... Jack-Ross LM. They have two locations in the east valley. I use the Tempe Autoplex location, but they have their original facility in North Tempe/South Scottsdale on Scottsdale Road. I have been very pleased with their professionalism and thoroughness in maintaining my baby. My only gripe to date has been getting a loaner vehicle while they have mine. However, I was recently assured by the dealership manager at the Tempe Autoplex location that Jack-Ross has just significantly added to their loaner fleet to accommodate their new and younger clientele ... you know, the ones that don't live in the retirement communities! The sales manager promised that I would be given a loaner vehicle whenever I had to drop my car off, provided I call in at least 24 hours in advance. Sounds fair to me.   Covey LM has earned the President's award for what that's worth, but they are located in the central Phoenix metro area on Camelback Road and 16th street. Not terribly convenient for me. You might want to check out the Registry page at the LLSOC site where I know of at least 3 other Phoenix based members have scored their service providers. Hope it helps.
#7 of 15392 OOPS! Post #6 above responds to post #1213 in part 12 by lolaj42 Jan 15, 2001 (9:47 pm)
Sorry about that, carqwiks original question was asked in post #1213 in pat 12, not 1215.
#8 of 15392 ronniepooh & stanny1 by ezaircon4jc Jan 15, 2001 (10:18 pm)
First off, Stan, I don't hit 3k RPM until about 82. I often hit 85 on the way to work and the car doesn't even break a sweat!   ronniepooh. I was a little vague on the web site. Here goes: there are 3 screws at the bottom of the door panel. In the bottom of the "grab handle" there is a flap. The only way that I could pry it up was to get a very thin flat head screwdriver and kind of pop up on the side closest to the interior of the car. There are 2 screws hiding under the flap. There is the obvious screw at the upper rear of the panel. There is a black trim plate around the chrome door handle. Use the same thin flathead and gently pry at the front of the trim piece, between it and the "wood" piece. It will pop out towards you. There is a screw behind the black frim piece. After that pry up on the bottom of the panel and work around to the top. You will hear what sounds like tearing, that's OK, it's just the plastic retainers releasing. That should do it. While you're there, replace those stupid, weak, lousy,speakers. If you need more info, feel free to send an e-mail to me ezaircon4jcnetscape.net or ezairconyahoo.com
#9 of 15392 Flooding engine? by smwls8 Jan 16, 2001 (2:20 am)
On New Year's day I attempted to crank my 2000 LS 8 to start my 640 mile trip from Atlanta to Miami. It was 24 degrees at my Parent's home, so I knew the car may be a little harder to start, but nothing like what happened. The engine made a very different sound when I turned the key, almost like the starter was not engaging the flywheel. I released the key and tried it again, but it still made the odd sound as though the starter was spinning but the engine was not turning over. I continued to re-try to crank the car, and after several minutes of turning the motor over the v-8 began to occasionally "fire", as though it was trying to crank. After several more attempts the engine fired consistently enough that I released the key. The engine was firing but running extremely rough. The odor of gasoline was very strong in the cabin and the idle was still very rough. At this point I have still not touched the accelerator at all, as the computer controlled fuel injection should handle a cold start. After 4-5 minutes the idle began to smooth out, I put the car in d5 and rolled out of driveway Long story short, I made the 640 mile trip in 8 hours and averaged about 22 mpg. This rough starting incident was isolated and has not happened since, althought the car is not subjected to cold temperatures here in Miami. Any ideas?
#10 of 15392 Re: Flooding Engine by akrus Jan 16, 2001 (4:27 am)
smwls8: In Lincoln LS XII, I posted a message (#818) in which I describe the exact same problem that you had. My friend (service manager at local Lincoln dealer) described it as having to do with the 'cold start procedure'. Look at that message for a little more detail as to his explanation. My car has done that once and never again. He claims that it is a common problem that they see at the shop, not just with the LS', but other Lincoln and Ford products.   Albert
#11 of 15392 Me too on flooding by chartrand Jan 16, 2001 (7:42 am)
Mine wouldn't start over the Christmas holidays. It was 36 degrees out but the car was in the garage. Same starter not engaged sound and strong smell of gas after it finally fired. Took a good 5 minutes of repeated tries before it started. Got a sinking feeling in my stomach that my $40 I baby might be just another Ford.
#12 of 15392 Thanx for the door panel info. by ronniepooh Jan 16, 2001 (8:00 am)
Didnt want to sound like I was bashing the llsoc.com site, because I definitely wasn't. Thats a great site for LS owners. To ezaircon4jc, thanx for posting here the detailed info on the door panel removal steps. It is greatly appreciated.   PS. Is this hard-to-start issue that several have complained of exclusive to the V8's? The proven Duratecs dont seem to have this problem, unless I've missed a post or two. Also seems like some of the issues that the PCM reflashes address are more pronounced in the V8's than in the V6's. Again, that could just be my perspective.

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