Last post on Sep 30, 2013 at 1:34 PM
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Lincoln LS, Sedan
#15480 of 15504 Re: A Year or So Later, . . . [cdnpinhead]
Dec 27, 2012 (7:22 am)
Is there any way to resurrect the LS thread here? Been gone from the new car marketplace since what...2006? 2007? An eternity ago. Would be interesting to see how many of the original manual transmission LSs are still on the road. That is the real interesting model. The one with the initial hotter final drive ratio. Thinking that was a 3.50 or 3.57? But just for short time in first year?
Still see a substantial number on road. Is a tastefully style car that is never trendy or hot, but always attractive. More Mary Ann than Ginger on Gilligan's Island?
Will be equally interesting to see if Lincoln survives. The LS was the last great Lincoln (since it was based on a Jaguar). Lincoln hasn't had anything of any real interest since the LS. I don't see anything on the horizon that is terribly intersting when compared to marques like BMW, MB, Infiniti, and Lexus.
Too bad Ford blew all those billions in the early-mid 2000s on stock buy backs/payments to shareholders when they could've desperately used it to shore up balance sheet and invest in innovative, exciting projects. Remember Jacque's old Premium Group? Aston Martin, Jaguar, RangeRover, Volvo. Now all sold off!
(Do know what you mean about giving up your LS. My 2004 IS300 with 5-speed manual and LSD is still going strong at 128,000 miles. Never been in shop for a repair! Can't imagine parting with her after all these years and miles!)
#15481 of 15504 Re: A Year or So Later, . . . [cdnpinhead]
Dec 29, 2012 (12:48 am)
Okay, it's alive. Still have my 2001 LS8, Autumn Red. Ran it in the LS Mania in Irvine on Jan 8, 2001. 57,000 miles, 2nd set of tires, 2nd battery plus a few window regulators, wiper sensor, valve cover gasket set, head and tail lamps and soon to replace a weak clock spring.
I still recognize some of the names above...
Dec 30, 2012 (1:03 pm)
I have purchased a few used LSes the past couple of years for folks, mostly young guys who have become a bit of cult followers on the LS - recognizing the amazing driving dynamics, weight distribution and handling of the car. I predict based on the interest I've seen, these may become collector cars someday. Even 10 or 12 years old, they have largely held up very well. Even the 2000, which had early problems and growing pains that were largely iron out in later years, are pretty good cars today. All of those early issues were long ago fixed on these cars. I have found the transmissions held up remarkably well, traveling well over 100,000 miles in some cases with no service even. If they go screwy, a new valve body easily bolted in from underneath repairs it nicely, easily and cheaply. It can be a DIY project if you want.
The interior products held up remarkably well. Seats are almost always in great condition. The excellent driving dynamics remain. They are still a kick in the pants to drive aggressively. Steering, handling, acceleration are still exciting. Part of this may be very few alternatives for similar cars of the era remaining today. Especially for the price they are trading ($2000 - $4000) for today.
A kid with a little money can buy one of these and have a hell of a lot of fun and a great performer. If I could find a cream puff, I'd buy it on spec and put it in the garage for a few years, and see where these cars go. It could be quite the appreciating asset someday, and lots of Sunday fun in between.
#15483 of 15504 Re: A Year or So Later, . . . [g2iowa]
Dec 30, 2012 (5:15 pm)
Is there any way to resurrect the LS thread here?
Probably not, given that the more social Edmunds boards that existed back in the day were vaporized a number of years ago and only a few remain in the off-topic crevices. I would dearly love to see the daily hit chart for the last 15 years for the Edmunds forums, but I may as well ask to be let into Fort Knox for 15 minutes with a pallet jack. I think the 23 people who visit regularly aren't interested in the LS.
The secret to a great car, IMHNO, is continuous improvement -- keep the good stuff and fix what breaks every 3-5 years, and "before you know it," say in 20 years, you've got a wonderful vehicle and a following. However, that requires what's called an attention span, and nobody has one any more, especially the people who market this stuff.
Ended up selling my car to CarMax -- very pleasant experience, all but the amount of money that changed hands. But, seriously, what should I have expected with a car that had a manual transmission (at least 19 were sold that way) and numerous parking lot dings? The one and only person who came to look at the car as a result of my Craigslist ad admitted that it was in great mechanical condition, but "didn't look as good in person as it did in the ad."
I went through the 3-4 month newspaper ad (remember when there were newspapers?), AutoTrader, drop the price every few weeks and keep paying for more ads drill back in '00 when I sold my Eagle Vision. I wasn't interested in going through that again.
The TSX I replaced the LS with has been 100% reliable for almost 70K miles, and it handles quite well (for a FWD vehicle); the manual transmission shifts beautifully. The differences between these two cars was remarkable as I shifted between them over the past several weeks. I will never own another American car.
BTW, it's good to hear from you again. I've been spending a lot of time in Iowa over the past couple of years, mostly in Creston where there's a large aerospace aluminum/magnesium foundry.
#15484 of 15504 Re: A Year or So Later, . . . [cdnpinhead]
Dec 30, 2012 (7:08 pm)
I recently traded my '05 LS in on a new Mustang. The interior was still almost perfect, and the seats and room are what I miss most about it. Mine had the 3.0 six, so the power was so-so, and it needed brakes, had a driveshaft vibration, and the back bumper was cracked. (My fault). Also I replaced three coils, but it was missing again, and I would have had to pull the intake manifold to change the other three. Got a decent trade, and it was time to move on, but I liked that car. It seemed to handle as nice or better than my Mustang in corners, seemed to corner flatter, I had nice Goodyear Eagles on '06 17"Sport wheels on it.
#15485 of 15504 New 2006 LS Owner
Jan 03, 2013 (7:48 am)
This summer I went on the hunt for an LS after wanting a luxury packed sport machine that I could afford. I could not believe the car I found the $$. I found a 2006 LS Sport (pearl white) with 59K in MINT condition. I drove from NY to PA (about 2 hrs) to hunt her down at a Honda Dealership. Needless to say, I fell in love instantly especially after hitting the gas on the test drive!! I have read some horror stories about it since, but am crossing my fingers that I will not have any major issues. I just had the DCCV valve problem fixed and it was all covered under the warranty I purchased. Other than that, I have driven about 7K so far and absolutley LOVE this car! My neighbors/friends/co-workers think I hit the lottery or something! They all thought LS was brand new! Also love this forum!!
#15486 of 15504 Re: New 2006 LS Owner [rjones17]
Jan 03, 2013 (3:07 pm)
'06 is the one to get. I had the '06 Wheels on mine and they really set the car off. Enjoy your new new ride!!
#15487 of 15504 Re: New 2006 LS Owner [toomanyfumes]
Jan 04, 2013 (6:39 am)
#15488 of 15504 Re: New 2006 LS Owner [rjones17]
Jan 05, 2013 (10:10 am)
I'm a retired Automotive Engineer & have owned > 2 dozen new cars.
The LS is in my top 5 "best" cars, and my #1 "Favorite" car.
#15489 of 15504 Re: New 2006 LS Owner [lateralg]
Jan 07, 2013 (10:40 am)
I am no engineer but have owned over 25 different cars since 1987ish. The LS is also my #1 favorite to date! I did the exotic driving experience and drove an AUDI R8 around the track in Orlando.......if I only had $$$$! For the little I spent on this LS... I have no complaints whatsoever! LOVE IT!!!!!!!