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Me too on flooding by chartrand
Jan 16, 2001 (7:42 am)
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Mine wouldn't start over the Christmas holidays. It was 36 degrees out but the car was in the garage.
Same starter not engaged sound and strong smell of gas after it finally fired. Took a good 5 minutes of repeated tries before it started. Got a sinking feeling in my stomach that my $40 I baby might be just another Ford.
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Thanx for the door panel info. by ronniepooh
Jan 16, 2001 (8:00 am)
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Didnt want to sound like I was bashing the llsoc.com site, because I definitely wasn't. Thats a great site for LS owners. To ezaircon4jc, thanx for posting here the detailed info on the door panel removal steps. It is greatly appreciated.
 
PS. Is this hard-to-start issue that several have complained of exclusive to the V8's? The proven Duratecs dont seem to have this problem, unless I've missed a post or two. Also seems like some of the issues that the PCM reflashes address are more pronounced in the V8's than in the V6's. Again, that could just be my perspective.
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Re: Electrical problems by wkam
Jan 16, 2001 (9:18 am)
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The battery pass through for the LS is located behind the Passenger A-pillar lower trim panel. This positive lead from the battery connects to the starter with a pass through bolt on the engine compartment side. This might be a recall issue but the service mechanic found the bolt shorting against the sheetmetal, killing my electrical system and my dead as a doornail battery. After he replaced the cable in the engine compartment, I haven't experienced any new electrical problems.
 
  In the LS Workshop manual, it states that the standard corporate protocol (SCP), an unshielded twisted pair cable, networks your ABS, audio control module (ACM), driver door module (DDM) which controls the windows, locks, keyless entry, and communicates with the driver seat module (DSM) that controls the power seat and mirror memory, dual automatic temperature control (DATC), instrument cluster module (ICM) which also controls the passive anti-theft system (PATS), front electronic module (FEM) and (REM) that controls your interior and exterior lighting and wiper system, powertrain control module (PCM) which controls the engine and others, RESCU, and .steering column lock module (SCLM) for manual transmission models.
 
If you wish to experience all of these modules shutting down one at a time like I have while driving home at night, short out your battery cable. Definately pissed me off.
 
Wes
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Flooding by airwolf1000
Jan 16, 2001 (10:06 am)
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I experienced the same thing dooring the holidays... The car would not start.... It took about 5 minutes, but just like everyone, have not had a problem since. The LS apparently does not like the cold weather!
 
Regards,
 
Airwolf1000
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Re: Electrical problems by wkam
Jan 16, 2001 (10:06 am)
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The battery pass through for the LS is located behind the Passenger A-pillar lower trim panel. This positive lead from the battery connects to the starter with a pass through bolt on the engine compartment side. This might be a recall issue but the service mechanic found the bolt shorting against the sheetmetal, killing my electrical system and my dead as a doornail battery. After he replaced the cable in the engine compartment, I haven't experienced any new electrical problems.
 
  In the LS Workshop manual, it states that the standard corporate protocol (SCP), an unshielded twisted pair cable, networks your ABS, audio control module (ACM), driver door module (DDM) which controls the windows, locks, keyless entry, and communicates with the driver seat module (DSM) that controls the power seat and mirror memory, dual automatic temperature control (DATC), instrument cluster module (ICM) which also controls the passive anti-theft system (PATS), front electronic module (FEM) and (REM) that controls your interior and exterior lighting and wiper system, powertrain control module (PCM) which controls the engine and others, RESCU, and .steering column lock module (SCLM) for manual transmission models.
 
If you wish to experience all of these modules shutting down one at a time like I have while driving home at night, short out your battery cable. Definately pissed me off.
 
Wes
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Response to Carqwik, Post #1213, Part 12 - Phoenix Maintenance by brentskic
Jan 16, 2001 (10:47 am)
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I've had service completed at Jack Ross in Scottsdale and at Fiesta in Mesa. There is no comparison. JR in Scottsdale was horrible, very unprofessional regarding times, call backs, estimates, general knowledge of a new car.
 
Service at fiesta in Mesa has been just the opposite, very professional, putting me in a loaner renter if the car had to stay, good about call backs and time estimates. They also have a service to give you a ride home during certain times of the day, and a pretty comfortable waiting room.
 
As Chris (lolaj42) notes above he has good experiences at the other Jack Ross dealer in Tempe.
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Ratios: Stanny by lateralg
Jan 16, 2001 (7:47 am)
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I read your reply, but don't quite follow.
 
Given the choice between A & B, which would you choose?
 
            Ratios
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Gear A B
------ -------- --------
First 3.25 4.33
Second 2.44 3.25
Third 1.55 2.07
Fourth 1.00 1.33
Fifth 0.75 1.00
 
Rr Axle 3.58 2.69
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Aftermarket LS by drolds1
Jan 16, 2001 (11:58 am)
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My son, who works for the LM dealer that I use, called me this morning all excited. When he arrived for work this AM, on the lot there was a black '01 Sport with a ground effects package, chrome wheels, chrome exhaust tips and mesh grille (front and rear, I think).
 
They are planning to put this on the showroom floor and offer it for sale. Apparently, they have struck a deal with an aftermarket outfit.
 
I'm anxious to see what this looks like and to find out what they're adding to the price. It'll be interesting to see if this takes off. I'll post further details as they become available.
 
Who'd a thunk it!? Usually, their add-ons are SIMCON tops for TC's and Grand Marquis. We've come a long way baby!
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Aftermarket Ground Effects for LS by ronniepooh
Jan 16, 2001 (12:19 pm)
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About two weeks ago near the Capital Beltway (Central Avenue) I saw a silver LS going in the opposite direction with the full kit. My first impression was: I didnt like it. I liked a couple of the ones on the Web, but I didnt like this one. Im sure it costs thousands to purchase/paint/install, and IMHO, from what I saw, unlike some factory or really good aftermarket packages (ie AMG for Mercedes or //M for BMW), this kit did not really blend and flow well with the LS's lines, imho. The front spoiler looked good, but I hated the rear deck wing, and the side skirts didnt really integrate that well to me.
 
Just my thoughts. Sorry, I have no idea which company manufactured the kit I saw. I still say the best bang for the buck visually for the LS would be a set of nice forged 18 inch rimsin the proper width/offset (Speedline or Fiske come to mind) and a nicemedium charcoal window tint.
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LS Aftermarket Parts by ls1bmw0
Jan 16, 2001 (1:01 pm)
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Don't forget to join in on the aftermarket performance parts discussion in the LLSOC Chat room Sunday, Jan. 21 at 4:00pm EST, 3:00pm CST, 2:00pm MT, 1:00PST with Leavy Morgan, the Spirit of Detroit MotorSports President. Leavy is currently assessing performance parts needs for the Lincoln LS and our input will be very helpful for him in determining which areas to focus on first. He has some excellent ideas and has access to a chassis dynamometer to be able to tell us what works and what doesn't.
 
If you need more info. on how to access the chat room email me at: brian.gowingllsoc.com
 
Brian

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