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162 messages, Last post on Jun 23, 2006 at 4:50 PM
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I read with some interest the back and forth on quality of the Sequoia vs. the Suburban. We just traded our 2000 Expedition 4x4 Eddie Bauer for a 2003 Suburban LT Autoride. In terms of quality, we never had any material problems with the Expedition after 70,000 miles - the only thing that ever went wrong was that the driver's heated seat quit heating. However, we are expecting our fourth child in October, and quite frankly there was no choice to be made - the Suburban is the only vehicle out there (absent a full size van or the semi-like Excursion that I understand is exiting production - yuck) that can comfortably accomodate 6 people and their stuff (strollers, luggage, etc.). We've only had the Burb for a few weeks, so difficult to comment on longevity, but I am EXTREMELY impressed with the build quality. This truck is quiet, smooth and tight. No rattles, no squeeks. Also, my inlaws have a 1999 Suburban and a 2000 Suburban and have had no trouble with either. I actually came from a "Toyota family" - my father worked in the service department of a Toyota dealership all my life and I was indoctrinated with Toyota's quality superiority over American products. While there still may be a very small "quality gap", there is no question in my mind that the Suburban is an extremely refined automobile and that American quality has risen dramatically in the last 15 years, while Japanese quality has been pretty stagnant to even dipping in certain instances. But again, at the end of the day, the Suburban (along with its Yukon XL and Escalade ESV counterparts) occupies a place of its own in terms of room for the big family. The Sequoia, Expedition/Navigator, and Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade just aren't in the same class with their dinky little cargo space behind the third row. |
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I agree, I have a Tahoe and it's great until you need to use the third row and you have cargo. I have three children, my wife and sometimes a nanny. We always have to leave our Siberian Husky behind since there is no cargo space behind the third seat. I use an umbrella stroller because the comfortable expensive stroller for my son doesn't fit behind the third seat. So, before buying the Toyota Seq, take your whole family and some cargo and test it out. Yes, most of the time you don't need this space, but don't you hate that one time you need it and you don't have it. Downside, Toyota is still higher quality than Chevy/GMC. I don't care what JD Powers or anyone else says. |
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Peter, buy a Volvo XC90. It should last forever. About me, I lost the hope that my 240 DL wagon would ever give up. For any american car you won't have neither parts nor knowledgeable mechanics. It would be a financial nightmare for you. Also you won't be able to use it for extended periods of time (when broken). Did you multiply the European gas price by the Suburban gas consumption ? Take it easy ... |
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| Had the deal wrapped up yesterday w/ the GM dealer in San Diego- 3k below invoice (incl rebate) on a 1sc pkg/safety,security/sun sound/tow. All picked out and everything. Then on the way, we stopped by Toyota just to see "what we were missing". Turned out to be a lot and the got a 2004 Limited for $500 over MSRP (about 500 less than Edmunds TVM price). The quality, the fact the rear bench is theater type seating, and the new instrument/console trim is awesome, and the fitment of the panels not to mention the SMOOTH running engine were deal makers. We had to drive over the the GM dealer and break the bad news. Turned out I got this Limited for the same price as the Yukon, less the great 3k rebate. But as my wife said, "You'll dump 3k in upgrading those ugly wheels on the yukon in a week". She was right, the new 17" Sequoia wheels are similar in appearance to the M5 wheels on the BMW it will live next to. Happy New Year everybody! | |
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Turned out to be a lot and the got a 2004 Limited for $500 over MSRP (about 500 less than Edmunds TVM price). Did you mean to say "over invoice?" Without even looking, I'm guessing that Edmund's True Market Value is not more than MSRP! |
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| Only $500 over MSRP. Sequoia must be a mighty fine vehicle. | |
| OK- everybody's been sick as dogs for a week and I was suffering from lack of neuron activity...meant 500 over invoice! | |
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Just took a 300 mile roadtrip in the new Sequoia Limited. Here's a few impressions versus the 1998 Yukon we are unloading- 1. Sequioa didn't even break a sweat climbing a mild grade w/ 40kt headwinds. Yukon used to grunt and groan as though it was going to split a nut. 2. Sequoia tracks straight and true in serious winds. Yukon was not nearly as stable, but this could be tire related (pirelli scopions on the Yukon vs 17" wheels/tires on Seq). 3. Ride in Sequoia is better (again, tire related?) 4. Stereo in 40k$ Sequioa sux. Will truly miss the JL package in Yukon. 5. I couldn't find a rattle or creak in the Sequioa, no matter how hard I tried. Don't have to go far in the Yukon to hear something creaking... 6. Third seat in Sequioa keeps 3yr old far enough away that he can't wack the back of my seat when he wants to attempt to intimidate the old man... The Sequoia can weave thru traffic with the ease of a sedan- the Yukon always felt like it was pulling a trailer and didn't want to get pushed. Totally satisfied. |
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| we are considering trading our suburban in for a sequoia because they have an center shoulder belt. We have 3 young kids and would like to do more carpooling, but are limited to the 4 seats in the suburban with shoulder belts. I hate to give up the extra room of the suburban. Does anyone know if there are aftermarket options for converting the seatbelts in the middle positions to shoulder belts? Or, with regard to the sequoia, is there enough room foer a family of 5, strollers, grogeries, hockey equipment, etc. Anyone owning one care to comment on this? Thanks | |
| Plenty of room, my friend. It's only 15 inches shorter than the Suburban. I have three kids, 13, 12 and 20 mos (w/overly huge car seat). Even with the third row left in place it can be folded or flipped forward. With them in place for sitting we can still fit all the strollers, etc with room to spare. Also, you can split the third row too, so if you have an extra person and still need cargo, that works also. Think of it as a compromise between a Tahoe and a Suburban. | |
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