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162 messages, Last post on Jun 23, 2006 at 4:50 PM
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I went to the Toyota dealer and they started talking about it compared to a Suburban. The sales guy brought ,me over to an article posted on the board. It was a comparison between the Sequoia, Suburban and the Expedition. I was confused and asked why Suburban and not Tahoe? He explained that the Tahoe was smaller than the Sequoia. I guess if you are looking for a certain size (bigger than Tahoe)and do not want to go down in size that makes sense. I wanted to get the Limited Sequoia but ended up with a Suburban. I couldn't pass up an LT Sub ($42,000 sticker) for $33,000. Best I could do on a $43,000 Sequoia was $39,500. GM Supplier Discount $5000, $2000 rebate and $2003 GM card. (Had $500 on card and GM added $1503 to make it $2003 in GM card discount) I know Toyota makes a very good product but feel it is a little over priced! |
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| The Suburbans are a bargain right now....but you have to wonder how they sell'em so cheap? They ain't in the business to lose money on these things so they are still making something...so why is their cost so low?? | |
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Maybe GM is trying to "buy" market share with great pricing and incentives. Maybe they haven't done major changes lately so they've depreciated the cost of the tooling and can afford to sell them cheaper. How can Toyota sell essentially the same car in Canada for thousands less than the US model? Ah, the mysteries of life Steve, Host |
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I agree there are several underlying causes for price differences. I personally think the difference is in engineering and its associated cost to implement better engineered product. It has now been proven that quality vehicles can be assembled in America. American car builders can screw together a car as good, if not better than any other country's builders.....when a car suffers a premature failure of a component...it is almost always due to inferior engineering or design of a part. |
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A few years ago I saw an article showing the profit auto makers were making on Cars, trucks and SUV's. Profits from SUV's were more than double. They were averaging profit of like $10,000 per SUV. Maybe GM is willing to sacrifice some of that profit to keep plants going and sales up. I believe the story of high profit. I remember when Ford came out with the explorer. It was very reasonably priced the first year or two. Then the following year, due to popularity, it's price increased by about 30% and kept going from there. That is why everyone jumped on the SUV bandwagon. Popular vehicle with high profit margin! |
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I just purchased a Denali XL (previuosly owned an '01 'Burb). While it is probably true that Sequoia's retain a higher percentage of their sticker price, this may be less true as a % of price paid (which is all that is relevant). When you can get $11k plus off sticker for a GMC / Chev, the value retention off the lot is less than 80% of sticker, since that is all you have to pay. But over the years, this number does not depreciate any faster than a Toyota. In fact, probably less. When you can get a totally decked out Denali XL for $41K, it is really hard to justify a Sequoia (less room, less engine/power, fewer amenities...) Just one person's opinion / experience. |
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I guess we could throw options and prices around all day, but I got a wonderfully equipped Sequoia SR5 2WD with a bunch of options and got out of the dealership at $34,500. I then installed a DVD/VCR entertainment system myself for around $1200. http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&- amp;ppuser=5564&thumb=1 I simply couldn't imagine getting anything nicer in this class of vehicle and there's no way I'm throwing $40K at anything. I certainly don't need 4WD and the 4.7 liter is incredibly smooth compared to the competition. Plenty powerful too. I also put a premium on reliability and that's why the domestics were never considered. |
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| gswenson, how did you get a DXL for $41K. Even getting the vehicle at invoice - 2500 cash back, this still is around $44k? | |
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For purposes of discussion: I bought one of the first '01 Sequoia's that came out. Sticker was near $40k (I think $39,400). I paid $35,900 + TT&L. I kept that vehicle exactly two years and traded it with 19,998 miles on the odometer. I received $30,450 on trade for an '03 Seq. I paid just above invoice for the new one so there was no game on the trade. Basically lost 15% of value over two years. |
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Hello my name is Peter, from stockholm sweden. Here it´s very hard to find a 00-03 Yukon XL or Suburban or Sequoia (Sec - not one in sweden). And the few that have been imported are redicoulusly expensive. So i might as well do all the work by myself (instead of letting a dealer make a fortune on me.) My question is: I need help to find a searchengine where i can search for cars on the eastcoast in the US. I´ve been looking a bit at www.autotrader.com but i would appriaciate if any of you guys could recommend another one. I have a contact in New Jersey that will take care of the shipping and so on, therefor i would like to find one in that aera. The car i´m looking for is a Yukon XL Denali, say 2002-2004. Or should i go for just a Yukon XL or Suburban? What is really the differens exept for the exteriör? Or shouls i go for the Toyota? We don´t haul things, just need room for me (6´6) wife and one year old kid, and often go for skiing with lots of laguage. Thanks Peter, stockholm |
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