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Toyota Sequoia vs Chevy Suburban GMC Yukon XL

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sequoia, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL, SUV


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Re: Hey [msmith1 #118] by gagrice
Jul 06, 2004 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: msmith1 (Jul 01, 2004 2:10 pm)

Smart move to keep the Yukon. I would never trade my Suburban for a Sequoia. They don't have as much room and get worse mileage and pollute the air worse.
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Re: u got conned vs Sequoia [raymur] by msmith1
Jul 08, 2004 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: raymur (Jul 05, 2004 3:54 pm)

I may not have been clear on the trades from your post. I owned both at the same time. First bought the 2002 Sequoia and then bought the 2003 Yukon. When we decided to trade in one of the vehicles, we felt, for us, the Yukon met our needs better. Traded in the Sequoia on a Cayenne S.
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Re: u got conned vs Sequoia [msmith1] by gagrice
Jul 08, 2004 (11:02 pm)
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Replying to: msmith1 (Jul 08, 2004 6:17 pm)

That is a step up for sure. I would love to have a Cayenne. I don't spend enough time on the road to justify that much of a vehicle.
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GMC Yukon vs Toyo Seq - TSBs for '03/'04 by gwdsequoia
Jul 16, 2004 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: tasillo (Apr 28, 2004 6:20 pm)

I am not sure of the criteria that a car company utilizes when they decide whether or not to issue a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB), but in my mind it's a behind the scenes admission of a problem. Nonetheless, it's designed to assist service technicians in resolving potential problems. The more TSBs a model has been issued, the more problems. End of story.
 
Let's take a look at the # of TSBs issued by GM and Toyo for model years '03/'04:
 
2003: Toyo issued 6 TSBs, GMC issued 112
2004 (so far): Toyo issued 3 TSBs, GMC issued 64 TSBs
 
Just look that the numbers. Toyo has issued 9 total TSBs for the Sequoia and GMC has issued 176 TSBs!!!
 
Personally, I weigh data like this much more heavily than I do for JD Power's customer satisfaction survey.
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Toyota TSB's by gkatz1
Jul 16, 2004 (5:38 pm)
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I have total access to all TSB's for my 2004 Sequoia and there are 24. Granted there are some really minor things in there but nevertheless, there are more than three. The latest was this month and regarded windshield wiper cleaning (real serious, hehe)
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Re: Toyota TSB's [gkatz1] by gwdsequoia
Jul 16, 2004 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: gkatz1 (Jul 16, 2004 5:38 pm)

I referenced the following site: http://www.mycarstats.com
 
This link only shows 3 TSBs for the 2004 model. If you've got a more updated link, I'd appreciate it!
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by gkatz1
Jul 16, 2004 (6:50 pm)
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I can't reference the site here because it is a competitor. Your site probably only lists significant TSB's while mine lists all of them. I would imagine, however, that your numbers comparison is fairly consistant. Don't forget though GM has a lot more variations in models than does Toyota.
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Here's another site's data by gwdsequoia
Jul 16, 2004 (10:30 pm)
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Replying to: gkatz1 (Jul 16, 2004 6:50 pm)

...from the Nation Highway Traffic Safety Administration website: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm
 
2004 Toyo Sequoia (dates from 8/19/03 to 5/31/04): 6 TSBs
2003 Toyo Sequoia (dates from 3/05/03 to 5/31/04): 16 TSBs
 
2004 GMC Yukon (dates from 1/01/03 to 1/01/04): 104 TSBs
2003 GMC Yukon (dates from 5/01/02 to 1/01/04): 166 TSBs
 
2004 Chevy Tahoe (dates from 1/01/03 to 1/01/04): 101 TSBs
2003 Chevy Tahoe (dates from 1/01/02 to 1/01/04): 157 TSBs
 
Whether or not one of the two sites that I've quoted are 100% correct, I think gkatz1 and I do agree in theory that the Toyota's dependability, as compared to the GMC and their variants, is far superior.
 
With the GMCs you can save about 10% off of the Sequoia's price tag, but then you have to deal with 10 times or more the amount of problems with it. To me it's a no-brainer.
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Re: Here's another site's data [gwdsequoia] by gagrice
Jul 17, 2004 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: gwdsequoia (Jul 16, 2004 10:30 pm)

Drawing the conclusion from your handle. I would say you are not unbiased. My experience with Toyota over the years is just the opposite, very poor quality vehicles. A PU and a Land Cruiser, were a constant source of trouble. My current Suburban a 1999 model is near perfect after 6 years. One slight exhaust leak and the trip odometer replaced. I wasted the $1100 on an extended warranty.
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Sequoia is not a big polluter by tooheeldrive
Jul 17, 2004 (7:24 pm)
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All Sequoia's meet 50 state ULEV standards and get better city and combined mileage than the current 4WD GM Suburbans. Better crash test scores too. Very interesting link, thanks, gagrice. Rumor has it that the 2005 Sequoia will get 16 city and 20 hwy and will have 45 more horses (285).

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