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#122 of 162 Sequoia big POLLUTER by gagrice Jul 06, 2004 (1:20 pm)
Has anyone brought up the fact that the Toyota Sequoia is a much worse polluter than the Suburban? The Toyota V8 engines have a long way to go to be as clean as the GM V8 engines. The Sequoia along with the Land Cruiser/LX470 are still in the top 5 worst polluters on the Planet..   http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm
#123 of 162 Re: Hey [msmith1 #118] by gagrice Jul 06, 2004 (5:00 pm)
Replying to: msmith1 (Jul 01, 2004 2:10 pm) Smart move to keep the Yukon. I would never trade my Suburban for a Sequoia. They don't have as much room and get worse mileage and pollute the air worse.
#124 of 162 Re: u got conned vs Sequoia [raymur] by msmith1 Jul 08, 2004 (6:17 pm)
Replying to: raymur (Jul 05, 2004 3:54 pm) I may not have been clear on the trades from your post. I owned both at the same time. First bought the 2002 Sequoia and then bought the 2003 Yukon. When we decided to trade in one of the vehicles, we felt, for us, the Yukon met our needs better. Traded in the Sequoia on a Cayenne S. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 08, 2004 11:02 pm)
#125 of 162 Re: u got conned vs Sequoia [msmith1] by gagrice Jul 08, 2004 (11:02 pm)
Replying to: msmith1 (Jul 08, 2004 6:17 pm) That is a step up for sure. I would love to have a Cayenne. I don't spend enough time on the road to justify that much of a vehicle.
#126 of 162 GMC Yukon vs Toyo Seq - TSBs for '03/'04 by gwdsequoia Jul 16, 2004 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: tasillo (Apr 28, 2004 6:20 pm) I am not sure of the criteria that a car company utilizes when they decide whether or not to issue a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB), but in my mind it's a behind the scenes admission of a problem. Nonetheless, it's designed to assist service technicians in resolving potential problems. The more TSBs a model has been issued, the more problems. End of story.   Let's take a look at the # of TSBs issued by GM and Toyo for model years '03/'04:   2003: Toyo issued 6 TSBs, GMC issued 112 2004 (so far): Toyo issued 3 TSBs, GMC issued 64 TSBs   Just look that the numbers. Toyo has issued 9 total TSBs for the Sequoia and GMC has issued 176 TSBs!!!   Personally, I weigh data like this much more heavily than I do for JD Power's customer satisfaction survey.
#127 of 162 Toyota TSB's by gkatz1 Jul 16, 2004 (5:38 pm)
I have total access to all TSB's for my 2004 Sequoia and there are 24. Granted there are some really minor things in there but nevertheless, there are more than three. The latest was this month and regarded windshield wiper cleaning (real serious, hehe) Replies to this message: gwdsequoia (Jul 16, 2004 5:54 pm)
#128 of 162 Re: Toyota TSB's [gkatz1] by gwdsequoia Jul 16, 2004 (5:54 pm)
Replying to: gkatz1 (Jul 16, 2004 5:38 pm) I referenced the following site: http://www.mycarstats.com   This link only shows 3 TSBs for the 2004 model. If you've got a more updated link, I'd appreciate it!
#129 of 162 by gkatz1 Jul 16, 2004 (6:50 pm)
I can't reference the site here because it is a competitor. Your site probably only lists significant TSB's while mine lists all of them. I would imagine, however, that your numbers comparison is fairly consistant. Don't forget though GM has a lot more variations in models than does Toyota. Replies to this message: gwdsequoia (Jul 16, 2004 10:30 pm) gagrice (Jul 17, 2004 12:35 pm) shieatt (Jul 19, 2004 6:00 am)
#130 of 162 Here's another site's data by gwdsequoia Jul 16, 2004 (10:30 pm)
Replying to: gkatz1 (Jul 16, 2004 6:50 pm) ...from the Nation Highway Traffic Safety Administration website: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm   2004 Toyo Sequoia (dates from 8/19/03 to 5/31/04): 6 TSBs 2003 Toyo Sequoia (dates from 3/05/03 to 5/31/04): 16 TSBs   2004 GMC Yukon (dates from 1/01/03 to 1/01/04): 104 TSBs 2003 GMC Yukon (dates from 5/01/02 to 1/01/04): 166 TSBs   2004 Chevy Tahoe (dates from 1/01/03 to 1/01/04): 101 TSBs 2003 Chevy Tahoe (dates from 1/01/02 to 1/01/04): 157 TSBs   Whether or not one of the two sites that I've quoted are 100% correct, I think gkatz1 and I do agree in theory that the Toyota's dependability, as compared to the GMC and their variants, is far superior.   With the GMCs you can save about 10% off of the Sequoia's price tag, but then you have to deal with 10 times or more the amount of problems with it. To me it's a no-brainer. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 17, 2004 12:35 pm) shieatt (Jul 19, 2004 6:00 am)
#131 of 162 Re: Here's another site's data [gwdsequoia] by gagrice Jul 17, 2004 (12:35 pm)
Replying to: gwdsequoia (Jul 16, 2004 10:30 pm) Drawing the conclusion from your handle. I would say you are not unbiased. My experience with Toyota over the years is just the opposite, very poor quality vehicles. A PU and a Land Cruiser, were a constant source of trouble. My current Suburban a 1999 model is near perfect after 6 years. One slight exhaust leak and the trip odometer replaced. I wasted the $1100 on an extended warranty.

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