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#117 of 162 Re: GM vs. Toyota, RESALE!!!! [wildwills #116] by tasillo Apr 29, 2004 (6:28 am)
Replying to: wildwills (Apr 29, 2004 5:19 am) The rotor wear/quality issue seems prevalent among all domestic and japanese brands. I believe it is both a size of rotor (ability to dissipate heat) and quality of the metal used. All my GM, Ford and especially Chrysler products go through rotors in 20K miles or less. My BMW 740 however (also a heavy and fast car) has no problems with rotors. BMW does not allow cutting or maching of rotors however so when it's time for pads, it's time for rotors as well (at $100 ea.). From my perspective, this is where the domestic mfg. could really close a gap with the Europeans. Invest in better quality and larger rotors, 4 piston calipers and quality components and customer satisfaction will improve as brakes are a common thread of complaint for GM, Ford and Chrysler.
#118 of 162 Re: Hey [cats_echo #1] by msmith1 Jul 01, 2004 (2:10 pm)
Replying to: cats_echo (Jan 14, 2001 11:59 am) Initially bought a 2002 Sequoia Limited, and traded my car in for a 2003 Yukon SLT. The reason was that we were going to have a third child.   Observations:   Sequoia:   Pros:   - Great fit and finish - Quality interior materials - Quiet motor - More room behind third seat than Yukon - Third seats slide back and forth to add room   Cons:   - Needs more power, a lot more power! - Very large turning radius - Poor visibility out the back - Dives into turns like a 65 Buick - Second row seats do not fold flat to the floor, only flip up. Then you must manually secure in place with a strap - Third row seats very heavy and difficult to remove - Rear power window requires that you either have the keyfob in hand or roll down using the button prior to accessing. - Feature set less than would expect for this vehicle - Experienced terrible mileage (usually 12.5 to 13.0) in town.   Yukon   Pros   - Good power and pulls trailers well - Many features such as XM radio that are not available on Sequoia - Tight turning radius - Great visibility - Good highway manners and very quiet - Seats fold flat very easy, with headrests moving out of the way automatically. - Third row easy to remove. - Average of 15 mpg in town   Cons   - Interior/exterior fit and finish is pathetic, I mean patheetic. - Interior materials not up to par with Sequoia - Not as good resale value as Sequoia   We decided not to have the third child, and when deciding on which vehicle to keep, we chose the Yukon and traded the Sequoia. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 06, 2004 5:00 pm)
#119 of 162 choice by petro33 Jul 02, 2004 (6:11 am)
Interesting observation on your pros and cons. I have to agree with your issues on seq second row of seats. The need to tumble forward and strap down and resulting access to the back is troublesome. BUT I disagree on power issue, now maby if you are towing something over 6,000 lbs you might not be able to go 55 up steep hills, but I would take the secure smooth running motor of the seq over the Yukon and the potential repair issues over time.   Milage is a minor price to pay for engine reliability. Plus with kids you may see the shoddy interior of the Yukon detroiate faster that the seq.   However I understand that fold down second seat issue and the difficult third row of seats to take out. I don't do either very much so it was not a factor in my decision.   You can also use the key in the lock in the rear door to roll the window down! What other "back window down options" do you want?   I use large fish eye mirrors on both sides and it gives me perfect visibility.   I would prefer that the seq had the dissapering seat feature and easier to remove third row feature.   Good luck with your new vehicle, I hope yours is one that stands up to the test of time. I do like the way it looks!!!
#120 of 162 When do the new Tahoes/Sequoias arrive by kcflyer Jul 05, 2004 (11:02 am)
I noticed that caddilac has a new escalade due out as an 06. Assuming they make the obvious move to add a disappearing third row seat I'm curious to see if a new Tahoe/Suburban will arrive at the same time. Has anyone heard anything? Same question for a redesigned Sequoia.
#121 of 162 u got conned vs Sequoia by raymur Jul 05, 2004 (3:54 pm)
Anyone who would trade a 2 year old Sequoia for a "you got conned" SLT, is either lying about owning a Sequoia or should have his (or hers) head examined. There's a reason GM is offering $5000.00 off these vehicles and it ain't because they are in hot demand. Replies to this message: msmith1 (Jul 08, 2004 6:17 pm) gagrice (Jul 08, 2004 11:02 pm)
#122 of 162 Sequoia big POLLUTER by gagrice Jul 06, 2004 (1:20 pm)
Has anyone brought up the fact that the Toyota Sequoia is a much worse polluter than the Suburban? The Toyota V8 engines have a long way to go to be as clean as the GM V8 engines. The Sequoia along with the Land Cruiser/LX470 are still in the top 5 worst polluters on the Planet..   http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm
#123 of 162 Re: Hey [msmith1 #118] by gagrice Jul 06, 2004 (5:00 pm)
Replying to: msmith1 (Jul 01, 2004 2:10 pm) Smart move to keep the Yukon. I would never trade my Suburban for a Sequoia. They don't have as much room and get worse mileage and pollute the air worse.
#124 of 162 Re: u got conned vs Sequoia [raymur] by msmith1 Jul 08, 2004 (6:17 pm)
Replying to: raymur (Jul 05, 2004 3:54 pm) I may not have been clear on the trades from your post. I owned both at the same time. First bought the 2002 Sequoia and then bought the 2003 Yukon. When we decided to trade in one of the vehicles, we felt, for us, the Yukon met our needs better. Traded in the Sequoia on a Cayenne S. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 08, 2004 11:02 pm)
#125 of 162 Re: u got conned vs Sequoia [msmith1] by gagrice Jul 08, 2004 (11:02 pm)
Replying to: msmith1 (Jul 08, 2004 6:17 pm) That is a step up for sure. I would love to have a Cayenne. I don't spend enough time on the road to justify that much of a vehicle.
#126 of 162 GMC Yukon vs Toyo Seq - TSBs for '03/'04 by gwdsequoia Jul 16, 2004 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: tasillo (Apr 28, 2004 6:20 pm) I am not sure of the criteria that a car company utilizes when they decide whether or not to issue a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB), but in my mind it's a behind the scenes admission of a problem. Nonetheless, it's designed to assist service technicians in resolving potential problems. The more TSBs a model has been issued, the more problems. End of story.   Let's take a look at the # of TSBs issued by GM and Toyo for model years '03/'04:   2003: Toyo issued 6 TSBs, GMC issued 112 2004 (so far): Toyo issued 3 TSBs, GMC issued 64 TSBs   Just look that the numbers. Toyo has issued 9 total TSBs for the Sequoia and GMC has issued 176 TSBs!!!   Personally, I weigh data like this much more heavily than I do for JD Power's customer satisfaction survey.

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