Last post on Nov 07, 2006 at 11:41 AM
You are in the Subaru Impreza
What is this discussion about?
Subaru Impreza, Sedan
#6996 of 11554 New Headlights??
Sep 02, 2002 (7:54 pm)
Hi all, I just wanted to pass on an observation from the subaru.com website. If you click on the request a brochure link, a menu pops up on the right side of the screen of .pdf online brochures. If you look closely, the impreza headlights are indeed different from the current model. However, when you click on the link, the 2002 brochure pops up. Very interesting. It looks like the Subaru website has been updated with new pictures for 2003 for all models except the Impreza, WRX, and Outback. Just some food for thought....Steve
#6997 of 11554 Photoshop job.
Sep 02, 2002 (8:01 pm)
Just look at the rims. Same exact rims used on the current car, just blown up slightly. Different rims below. Looks very fishy.
#6998 of 11554 Just no Alcheeeeezas!
Sep 03, 2002 (4:55 am)
It looks good but the alcheeeezas have to go on that photochop edition.
#6999 of 11554 New TV Commercial
Sep 03, 2002 (4:57 am)
Saw the WRX commercial this morning with the 2 kids driving and they turn down the radio for the twisty section. It's like tha anti-Civic commercial where the kids get in to listen to the radio but never leave the driveway! I love it!
#7000 of 11554 hee hee mike :D
Sep 03, 2002 (5:55 am)
it would also imply there's money left over to buy gas
Sep 03, 2002 (7:10 am)
The impreza with the different lights is the older body style..known as GC8.
Sep 03, 2002 (7:53 am)
Interesting twist, mike, I haven't seen that ad yet.
Anyone else notice that in the C&D braking test, stopping distances were shorter with the ABS off (with the stock brakes)? Comments?
Sep 03, 2002 (9:00 am)
The general misconception is that ABS = shorter stopping distance. The reality is that ABS = controlled stopping and you can still steer the car.
#7004 of 11554 WRX revisions, mod'd photos, etc
Sep 03, 2002 (9:05 am)
I strongly dislike the look of that image purporting to be the next-gen Rex, and hope it's merely some enterprising auto journalist hoping to stir up discussion (and issue sales figures)
Further, I don't believe that Subaru will make any major changes to the WRX, unless they really have NO intention of bringing the STi to North America. Here's why I think that:
1: Having been in North American showrooms for only a year now, following the large media presence marking the debut, if SoA makes major changes to the WRX it would be a tacit admission that the current WRX has problems (which it does not!). Even GM kicked and dragged its heels about changes to the Aztek (reducing the plastic cladding, etc) even after the press and buyers had roundly condemned the vehicle. GM had neither the budget to alter the vehicle, nor the willingness to admit a mistake.
2: SoA, like all auto mfrs, operates on a budget that is planned years in advance, with hard&fast allocations for each vehicle line. If SoA is working to "Americanize" the STi, I would assume that that project is allocated much more in the way of resources than any changes to the WRX.
2b: in the course of normal vehicular affairs, a vehicle model must demonstrate its ability to pay for itself before it is given a new slug of funding for changes/refreshes. Ford chose to kill the Blackwood rather than pump money into it and make changes, because it could not demonstrate that it would pay for itself even WITH those changes. Even with the media attention and strong sales figures it's earned, the WRX has sold "only" ~12K units (nevermind that the WRX sold "only" as many as it did because that's all SoA brought over here), meaning it probably has a ways to go before it generates positive RoI and will justify more spending on updates/refreshes.
3: Making the WRX any more powerful, or providing other upgrades to engine/powertrain, would force SoA to up the price and would also engender the sensation that the WRX is in competition with the STi. If the STi will have 270hp and MSRP at 30K, giving the WRX 240hp and raising MSRP to 26 or 27K would have a lot of prospective buyers saying "if I spend just a little more, I can get the STi," and WRX sales will suffer. If SoA improves the WRX but holds the price, they will lower their profit margin AND threaten to boost the WRX's price/performance ratio high enough that potential STi buyers decide to get the WRX as it's "almost as good." It's common practice to have a particular vehicle model that is available in many different packages (eg the dizzying array of ways to outfit a full-size Chevy truck, or the engine choices for the Mustang) but I believe SoA wants to treat the WRX and STi NOT as to differently-outfitted versions of one model, but as two separate models.
#7005 of 11554 re: WRX revisions
Sep 03, 2002 (9:13 am)
A lot of people consider that a "face lift" isn't a major change at all. If you look at the previous generation Impreza, it was updated and restyled with minor changes two or three times over it's lifespan.
I also believe that small horsepower jumps are probable with the WRX, since Subaru has done it often in the past. Maybe not big h.p., but easily 5-10 IMHO.