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#11477 of 11554 Re: Aussie2.5 WRX wagon review [rsholland]
May 23, 2006 (4:09 pm)
"I think something like 4% of the WRX wagons had been sold with automatics in the past."
Was this 4% number based on some published figures ? Maybe I missed seeing them, since I would be extremely surprised if this were so, especially here in the US.
Or was the move from Subaru an arbitrary move to milk the most amount of money from people who desire automatics ? I personally would refuse to buy a "limited" WRX with things like slippery leather etc which is the last thing I need in a tight handling car with 55% of the torque going to the rear wheels (other automatic Imprezas act like Front-wheel-drive vehicles for the most part). I have no use, nor would I want to pay for, automatic climate control or a moonroof either....especially since manual WRXs are available without all these things.
The reason why I ask is that they have dropped the regular Legacy GT wagon too and are forcing people to spring for the "limited" version with all kinds of un-needed luxuries and several thousand dollars more than the base GT. As we know, a base GT was available till 2005.
#11478 of 11554 Re: Aussie2.5 WRX wagon review [aaykay]
May 23, 2006 (5:12 pm)
It is more a desperate move of a small company that can't afford to have an expanded lineup. There is always somebody to be left unhappy. I can see your priorities for example different than mine - I like "stuff", as much as I could afford, but I want a manual transmission with it. Removing regular GT (both manual and auto) and manual GT Ltd. was probably more of a necessity to stay afloat than anything else.
My local dealer got stuck with two 05 GT wagons with manuals until after February 06! I was even entertaining to trade my WRX for one, but did not do it exactly because it was not limited (wanted a sunroof at least, would not oppose a leather). Plus, 06 has a redesigned structure with better side crash rating, which made me "wait & see" even more for say 07 or even 08.
One thing I still cannot understand - they left Outback XT with manual. For me more logical would be cutting the Outback and leaving the Legacy manual, as more sporty of the two. But what do I know...
#11479 of 11554 Re: Aussie2.5 WRX wagon review [aaykay]
May 23, 2006 (5:29 pm)
Yes, that 4% was a published figure. It was posted in a thread on another Subaru site. It was supplied by someone with access to broken down sales figures from Subaru.
As to slippery leather seats... Not a problem as I have an '06 WRX Limited wagon, and the leather seats keep me firmly planted, without sliding.
#11480 of 11554 Re: Aussie2.5 WRX wagon review [dino001]
May 24, 2006 (11:56 am)
Note that the entry-level Nissan Versa offers 6 ratios in both their automatic and their manual. For like $12 grand.
#11481 of 11554 Re: Saab 9-2x Aero [aaykay]
May 25, 2006 (7:01 am)
Did people notice that the Saab 9-2X Aero (WRX) has a $4000 cash-back on right now ? Even though the SAAB version is available without leather etc., it is not equipped with the improved brakes from the 2006 WRX. It has only been given the 2.5L turbo mill, without the brake upgrade, which is a poor move
I take this back. The Saab 9-2X Aero (WRX) has the brake upgrade too. The WRX brakes and the Saab brakes are of the same size. So essentially, the SAAB is available with cloth etc., and automatic, for around 3 grand less than the WRX limited, after factoring in the 4000$ cash back.
More surprising are the prices for the Legacy GT Limiteds and the Outback VDCs. $35 grands+ and remaining unsold for several months. The Tribecas are even more expensive and have remain unsold for months too. Forcing people to buy "limiteds" for 1000s more does not seem to be a winning strategy !
#11482 of 11554 Re: Saab 9-2x Aero [aaykay]
May 25, 2006 (7:53 am)
There aren't too many Subies street priced above $35 grand, in fact fitzmall.com is a Subaru dealer and they don't have a single one priced that high, $34,268 for their best equipped 7 seater Limited with NAV and DVD.
Saab has higher-than-Impreza prices to begin with, so I doubt you'll end up paying much less. When the Employee Purchase Program was out, you could get a 9-2x Aero for $19.4k, and a WRX was running about $21 grand.
#11483 of 11554 Re: Saab 9-2x Aero [ateixeira]
May 25, 2006 (8:13 am)
And the employee pricing was running with about 7 grand cashback incentive. 9-2X has $3-$5 thosand premium on the sticker over Impreza in both trims. If both sell close to invoice, $4K incentive basically brings both cars to similar pricing, give and take, which is about right as
9-2X offers very little over WRX - couple of oil changes and perhaps better exterior styling, if someone likes it.
#11484 of 11554 Re: Saab 9-2x Aero [dino001]
May 25, 2006 (8:17 am)
And don't forget they delete the roof rails.
#11485 of 11554 Re: Saab 9-2x Aero [ateixeira]
May 25, 2006 (8:19 am)
And rear window defogger (at least it was in 05) - you had to get a "weather package" for it
May 25, 2006 (1:22 pm)
It is true that if both cars sell close to Invoice, then the 4K discount should make the prices comparable, comparably equipped.
BUT, here is the issue: Subaru WRX Automatic is not available in the base WRX trim and only in "Limited" trim which costs around $3000 more than the base version. The SAAB Automatic Aero is available, in base trim, which is all I need. So when a base SAAB Automatic Aero is outfitted with an Automatic, it costs around $4K less than the WRX Automatic Wagon (Available as "Limited" only), when we factor in the 4K cashback. 4K is a serious chunk of change, for someone who does not need the additional stuff fetched by that money. If comparable base trims were available, I would not think twice about springing for the Subaru.