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#9666 of 18329 NHTSA Engine Stalling Investigation
Jan 14, 2003 (3:21 pm)
U.S. regulators investigate GM SUVs, Ford sedans
Tuesday January 14, 4:48 pm ET
DETROIT, Jan 14 (Reuters) - U.S. auto safety regulators have opened an investigation into 150,000 General Motors Corp. (NYSE:GM - News) sport utility vehicles after 36 reports of engines stalling without warning.
The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said the complaints involve 2002 GMC Envoys and 2002 Oldsmobile Bravadas; the Chevrolet TrailBlazer, which shares the same mechanical parts is not under investigation.
NHTSA says the complaints allege the SUVs stalled at speeds up to 75 miles per hour, causing steering and braking to fail. In some cases the engines could not be restarted and the vehicles had to be towed.
The agency also opened an investigation into 480,000 Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable sedans from the 2000 model year after one report of an air bag failing to deploy in a fatal crash. The driver was wearing a seat belt, but suffered fatal head injuries when he lost control of his Taurus and rammed a concrete bridge rail, NHTSA said.
#9667 of 18329 regulators have opened an investigation
Jan 14, 2003 (6:18 pm)
Cool... that usually precedes a full-blown recall. Of course they have to figure out how to fix the problem first. Wonder why TrailBlazer isn't included.
Jan 14, 2003 (6:24 pm)
Hi all. I am new to the board. I bought a new loaded Envoy SLT a couple of weeks ago. Can someone tell me how to find the build date of the vehicle. Also, even though I just bought it, I also seem to have the smaller gas tank even though I was hoping to get the 22 gal.
#9669 of 18329 build date of the vehicle
Jan 14, 2003 (6:28 pm)
Hello welcome aboard! Look on the sticker on the driver's door above the door latch. Should be a month and year date. Seems I remember the bigger tank started with the August production.
#9671 of 18329 investigation into stalling
Jan 14, 2003 (7:00 pm)
Perhaps the TB has had no stalling reports. The one difference between the TB and the Envoy and Bravada is that the TB doesn't have the air suspension as an option. There have been many posts regarding the problems caused by the air suspension. Compressors draw high currents. A dip in power could cause a computer to lock up. I would look in that direction among others, and I would also call Bill Gates, he has a lot of experience in finding software glitches.
#9672 of 18329 Re: Bill Gates
Jan 14, 2003 (7:37 pm)
Finding software glitches or producing them? I don't think that Mr. Gates has the best record for "glitchless" software.
#9673 of 18329 Compressors high current surge
Jan 14, 2003 (8:07 pm)
We're definitely on the same page on that one. The only thing I coulld think of also is the auto-levelling air suspension and reports of the engine almost dying when the compressor kicks in.
#9674 of 18329 New format?? NO GOOD!
Jan 15, 2003 (6:33 am)
I logged in today to this web site and it's ... different. Guess I am going to have to get out my magnifying glass. Text is so small I can barely read it! NOT GOOD!! If I increase font size, then on every other web site I go, to the text is way too big. I use a 17" LCD monitor in its native resolution 1280X1024 which is not a problem on ay other web site I go to. That darn new BANNER AD on the right seems to be crowding out the font size. Also I primarily use Netscape 4.7. Checked it with IE and it isn't as bad but everything is squeezed vertically to accomodate that new banner.
Let me know when you guys get this fixed. I'll be back then. I can't handle this.
later, tblazed Ed
#9675 of 18329 re: Stalling investigation
Jan 15, 2003 (6:53 am)
I've been very fortunate that my Envoy hasn't stalled while moving (knock on simulated wood!). It's always when I'm stopped, which is still dangerous since I almost got rear-ended the other night when I couldn't go on the green light. And yes, it does seem to be related to the air suspension inflating, either right when it starts or right after inflation. Deflation also lowers the engine idle slightly, but not as much as inflation.
Surges and electrical noise on the data bus seem to be the likely glitch that would cause the computers to hiccup and cause the engine to stall or create a near-stall condition. But who knows??? GM??? Hello, are you out there???
I really want to keep my Envoy (assuming I get it back in working condition after their 4th attempt to fix this problem). But my confidence level in my truck has fallen considerably and I'll probably trade it in (or initiate a buyback) real soon.